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    Simple Versatile suspension

    A couple of months ago, I bought an ENO doublenest, and wanted to make a suspension system that would be able to work in the widest number of ways. First off, I live in the Los Angeles area, where our mountains have a limited number of trees. I frequent the Sierra Nevada Mountains where trees are in abundance, but the circumference can be pretty large. I had not read this forum, and had I done so, I probably would have done things a little differently, but here goes. I purchased 40 feet of 9/16" climbing grade webbing from my local REI. I also purchased 4 Omega Pacific rappeling rings. I split the webbing into two pieces, and sewed a loop in each of the four ends. To hang, I simply wrap the webbing around the tree, through the loop, and down to the hammock. Then one pass through the rings, and out between the rings on the second pass to lock the webbing in place. I can then adjust the hammock with my structural ridge line that has a string level attached. This system allows me the widest range of hanging options with a minimum of complexity. I can also hang above treeline using large boulders as supports. The loops on the ends of the webbing can serve as wedges by placing a rock inside the loop. As an added bonus, the two pieces of webbing makes a nice 40 foot rescue rope (the mountains above LA are steep, so you never know...) The weight is 11 oz, which is a bit heavy. After discovering this forum, I'm going to make some whoopies, and see how they work in the Spring time.
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    A couple things if I may. Nylon webbing stretches so that may be something to keep in mind. You may set up and over time find your comfort changing as the webbing stretches. Also, if your SRL is to be truly structural you may need to swap out that S biner. If you set up with trees very far apart, the SRL may take on a heavier load and that S biner is not strong enough. Whoopies are fun to make and easy to use. Have fun with them.
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    I hadn't noticed any stretch, but I'm new, so my hiney may not yet be sensitive to such things...I use the ridge line for setup, as I throw my pack on the hammock for some weight, and level it out while standing. Seems to work. I'll troll through the posts and see about the proper use of the ridgeline. I made it from 2.2 mm zing it cord. My first whoopie! (You never forget your first, do you?)

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    That sounds like a great system. The only time I have noticed stretch with nylon webbing is when it gets wet. Went to sleep at knee hight. Rained over night and I was rather surprised in the morning to find I was about 6" off the ground.
    I especially fond of your putting rocks in the loops to make wedges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibgary View Post
    I especially fond of your putting rocks in the loops to make wedges.
    I agree! Very resourceful!
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    if you only use the RL for set up, that's cool. It is used by many as a guide to getting the sag they want. It only gets tight when you have a shallower suspension angle as is the case when trees are really far apart and you cannot get the suspension high enough on the trees to maintain a 30 degree suspension angle.. Zing it is pretty strong, I was only concerned if the S biner gets some serious pull on it and no, you never forget your first.
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    Eagle Rock & Highland Park

    How long have you been in Eagle Rock? I was there in 1968.

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    I was born in Highland Park in '62. Went to High School at ER. I've been here a loooong time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtnmanmike View Post
    I was born in Highland Park in '62. Went to High School at ER. I've been here a loooong time!
    I spent many years in Highland Park. In between the daily gun battles from the Ave's and the CP Boys, it was some fun times. Can't say I miss it. Did you know any Kelso's in ER?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtnmanmike View Post
    I hadn't noticed any stretch, but I'm new, so my hiney may not yet be sensitive to such things...I use the ridge line for setup, as I throw my pack on the hammock for some weight, and level it out while standing. Seems to work. I'll troll through the posts and see about the proper use of the ridgeline. I made it from 2.2 mm zing it cord. My first whoopie! (You never forget your first, do you?)
    Looks like you purchased the "mil-spec" webbing from REI. If so, then rest easy it does not stretch. I have used it for tree straps often. If it stretches at all i can attest it is not noticeable.

    Also looks like your webbing is closer to 1" than 9/16th". Hope it is closer to 1" cause 9/16 is probably not wide enough to protect the trees.

    I'm pretty sure you will enjoy the whoopies! Using them will allow you to significantly reduce both the weight and the bulk of your suspension by getting rid of much of that strapping.

    You might also consider replacing those two pair of ascender rings with something like a Dutch whoopie hook

    It's all good. HYOH
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    Nature's peace will flow into you as sunshine flows into trees.
    The winds will blow their own freshness into you, and the storms their energy,
    while cares will drop away from you like the leaves of Autumn."
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