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    ~Reason~'s Avatar
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    UGQ OMG (unexpected night in new 0 Zeppelin)

    I just got a 0 Zeppelin with draft collars and resist down from Paul at Underground Quilts.

    I'm pretty new to the hammock thing and although I winter hike, snowshoe, and summertime camp, I have never done any cold weather camping. Hubby has the heat down to 66 in the house and I'm cold in bed every night to give you an idea of how not warm I sleep.

    Last night on a whim I decided to try out the new underquilt outside for a few minutes to see where my cold spots were and figure out what I needed to adjust. All I brought out was my ENO double nest, the underquilt, a summer weight down sleeping bag from the 60s, a little fuzzy throw blanket, and my pillow. I got everything set up, jumped in and whoa... warm.

    There was no cold coming in from below or the sides. The heat I was losing through my wimpy top layers wasn't enough to chill me. Super surprised, I took off my jacket... Still warm. In fact a little too warm, so I took off my wool socks. Mind you this is with no tarp, no sock or shelter, no fancy topquilt. I figured I was mostly just warm from running around hooking stuff up so I decided to stay for a while. Although the weather was completely clear I could feel the moisture condensing out of the air onto my stuff. My sleeping bag was definitely getting moist but the moisture froze as frost on the outside of the UQ.

    I pulled the fur front of my trapper hat down over my eyes and nose and pulled the blanket up over my chin and promptly fell asleep uncannily warm and toasty.

    I woke up a few times from the dogs barking at unseen wildlife and each time the big dipper had marched further across the sky and I was still very warm. I was really deep down warm so I could sit up out of the blankets in just a long tee-shirt for a few minutes and look at the stars and adjust my blankets without discomfort because my core temp was normal.

    I'm totally blown away. I've been awake tossing and shivering all night on fairly warm nights camping in tents and our pop-up.

    My husband came out to check if I was still alive before he left for work . I'm not sure how cold it got overnight but the condensation on the outside of the underquilt was frozen. Weather was calling for 20s.

    Everything was noticeably heavier carrying it in than carrying it out from the condensation. The underquilt is perfectly dry. The frost flaked off and even where I pulled it over me and it rubbed the wet blankets, the down didn't seem to absorb any of the water that I can tell.

    To do it again in the same conditions or even a little colder I think I would only add a waterproof overlay over everything but my face to keep the frost off. I like not feeling like I'm inside of a tent.

    Maybe it's not news to all of you, but I had no idea that gear could perform this well.

    Very fast production and shipping, great quality craftsmanship, great materials, great communication. The only thing that Paul could improve on is including a newbie setup instructions. I'm sure most customers are old hands at hammocking, but I was a little baffled by all of the tabs and bungies and baffles The setup video on your site is in need of a closeup or two and maybe a shot of what to do without triangle thingies. Maybe a picture with labels ( what the heck is DWR?) With this great of a product word is sure to spread and you'll have more clueless customers like me who need a nudge in the right direction. (What are all of these little loops for for example, they look important ). Anyway, thanks a bunch from a sure to be repeat customer.

    ~Cindy~
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    If you teach a child to reason they'll think for a lifetime.
    trip report Great Pumpkin Hang, Oct18-20, 2013, Cardigan Mt, NH

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    Just received my underquilt from Paul at Underground Quilts. I'm having a hard time trying to figure out how it hangs. Each end has a bungie cord about 3 ft. long that snaps to the "d"rings with a cord lock centered on the cord. And on the long sides there are snaps that are on both ends with one end having a cord lock. I have the triangle things, I'm confused on which of the 2 above mentioned cords connects to the "d"rings on the triangle things. How is yours connected to the hammock.
    I should say I have a Henessy Hammock.

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    Lol, I'm totally not the person to answer this since I barely have it figured out, but I think the long ones that go from head to foot end of the quilt hook to the triangle things. The quilt can then slide back and fourth on these cords. (In his video Paul shows tightening those quite snug) The ones with the centered cord lock I ran through the attachment points at the head and foot of the hammock and I used the cord lock to change the length of those to pull the quilt towards my head or foot to get it centered under me. The last bungies are there to snug the quilt around the hammock.
    ~ʎpuıɔ~
    If you teach a child to reason they'll think for a lifetime.
    trip report Great Pumpkin Hang, Oct18-20, 2013, Cardigan Mt, NH

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    Congratulations on a premium piece of gear!
    Why did we EVER think tents were a place to sleep?

    That DWR means Durable Water Repent finish. It's whats keeping the condensation out of your underquilt.
    Mike
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    Here are some written instruction for you on quilt setup....

    http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/s...700#post888700

    Thanks for your support and your wonderful write up on your first night...
    Happy Hangin'

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    What a great report! And sounds like a very excellent piece of gear!
    For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us....that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now.
    Romans 8:18,21-22

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    Darn Tropical Islands!

    Quote Originally Posted by sr1355 View Post
    Here are some written instruction for you on quilt setup....

    http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/s...700#post888700

    Thanks for your support and your wonderful write up on your first night...
    Service like this is why you will get my business when I have a chance to experience temps below 75. Probably a few years away due to being active duty military, but it will happen none the less.
    "We do not go to the green woods and crystal waters to rough it, we go to smooth it."- G. W. Sears

    My forum name is Fish<><; I'm in the navy; and I hate sleeping on the ground. If I didn't need ground to walk on or measure resistance to, I think I could happily give it up.

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    Great review on some awesome gear!
    Its a proven fact that 78.4% of all statstics are made up on the spot.

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    Went a long way toward finalizing my decision on which 0* UQ to get. Already have his 20* Flight Jacket. Looks like it's going to be a matched set.
    Just waiting for a sale of some sort...
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    very nice write up

    I just sent this to a friend in NH who I am slowly converting from a ground dweller to a hanger
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    seemed to me to be static things.
    In physical terms, I move through them;
    yet in metaphysical ones,
    they seem to move through me. -
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