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    Looking for the Ultimate Ultralight UQ Recommendation

    I'm builing an ultralight kit for 3 season backpacking. I currently own a HG 0 degree underquilt and a Phoenix 3/4 20 degree underquilt. The next step is something I can use for most of three seasons in Missouri including the summers. I've looked at getting a 40 degree HG Phoenix but there's really only about 3 oz of difference between that and my 20. For so little weight difference I'd be inclined to simply make due with my 20 degree Phoenix.

    I've been looking at Te-Wa brand underquilts; they seem to have a 40 degree UQ that only weights 10.5 onces so that would be a significant weight savings.

    I'm looking for recommendations for a truly ultralight underquilt. This will be teamed up with a Darien UL hammock that only weights around 13 oz or so.

    for the top quilt I'm looking at Zpacks 40 degree top quilt that only weights a tad over 11 oz.

    The goal is to come up with a low weight, low volume TQ, UQ and Hammock for true 3 season use here in Missouri.

    Your thoughts and experience are highly sought and appreciated!!

    Merry Christmas
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    Mr. Arrowhead pgibson's Avatar
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    Get the te-wa. I have seen his gear and if I did not make my own stuff I would be set up with the-wa stuff. Very well made....meticulous attention to every detail.
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    Senior Member SGT Rock's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gideon View Post
    I'm builing an ultralight kit for 3 season backpacking. I currently own a HG 0 degree underquilt and a Phoenix 3/4 20 degree underquilt. The next step is something I can use for most of three seasons in Missouri including the summers. I've looked at getting a 40 degree HG Phoenix but there's really only about 3 oz of difference between that and my 20. For so little weight difference I'd be inclined to simply make due with my 20 degree Phoenix.

    I've been looking at Te-Wa brand underquilts; they seem to have a 40 degree UQ that only weights 10.5 onces so that would be a significant weight savings.

    I'm looking for recommendations for a truly ultralight underquilt. This will be teamed up with a Darien UL hammock that only weights around 13 oz or so.

    for the top quilt I'm looking at Zpacks 40 degree top quilt that only weights a tad over 11 oz.

    The goal is to come up with a low weight, low volume TQ, UQ and Hammock for true 3 season use here in Missouri.

    Your thoughts and experience are highly sought and appreciated!!

    Merry Christmas
    Gideon
    I have a Te-Wa for my summer quilt and I've modified the suspension to use Dutch quilt hooks directly to the hammock body. After modifications it is 9.44 ounces and doesn't have a bunch of lines going everywhere as another plus.
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    Senior Member rngn's Avatar
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    You might take A look at warbonnet 3 season Yeti At 12.5 oz not only is it light but packs down very small because its one of the shorter quilts and you know the quality is there guaranteed.Also its on sale $165 P.s. and dont blame this one on me.
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    I also have the Te-Wa breeze with one oz over stuff and love it. I use it down to the low 30s with no issue.

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    You could also contact Hammock Gear and have them make you one out of 10D or M50. They also use 900fp down so if you had them make one with one of those materials to the same size specs of Te-wa (HG quilts are wider) it would be lighter.
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    For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us....that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now.
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    I made the 3/4 IX UQ a few weeks ago & I'm very happy with it. I've used it in the basement @ ~50* several times.
    I've put it on top a few times also. Now I need to learn about vapor barriers.

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    For comparison my current custom 3 season set (20*) from Hammock gear the TQ weighs 16.62oz and the UQ weighs 11.79.

    Now mind you these are custom, the TQ was made to larger specs (bigger footbox, different taper, wider head end, and one baffle short) and the UQ was made smaller than the stock phoenix.

    So all I'm saying is Adam will do custom work, all you need to do is give him a call and find out what he can do for you.

    The other quilts that were already mentioned are fantastic, and the z-packs bag is probably the lightest bag out there. But for true weight savings the best thing to do is go custom as then you (and the maker of course) have control (somewhat) of what materials are used and what gets left off (or not needed, like the zipper on the z-packs bag, Velcro on the top edge of the z-packs bag) but Joe will work with you on all this as well, not sure if he will change the dimensions (make it narrower)??

    Also don't forget IX, IX is def lighter than the rest, but not as compressible as down, so if space is a requirement then "shucks" it was worth a shot.
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    FWIW on IX. I'll speak my peace and move on.

    I had high hopes after talking with Mac about his IX stuff that it would fill my need for an UL underquilt based on his sales pitch. I tried it and froze my butt off. I told him about it and got another layer sent to make a double layer - still froze my butt off. I cobbled together a three layer based on his instructions and still didn't find it living up to the stories. By that time it was as heavy, and much bulkier than if I had got a down quilt. In the end, I got a Te-Wa down quilt. I found out later I'm not the only one that has this experience.

    So I don't doubt that IX may work for you, and it seems to work for others. But in my experience with IX, success is not universal.
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