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    Yes it is correct but like in your pic there does not look to be much loft like mine but when I put black side out it seems to loft more.

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    Yeah, that IS a stupid question.

    Nah Just Kiddin'!

    Mine hangs green out also.
    I'd have to assume set up problems but second the suggestion to go to the source for help -

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    I THINK, down is down, it really doesn't matter, temp wise. I bet a phone call to HG, with a brief description of your hems, will get you headed in the right direction!

    FYI- I spent my first 5 nights with my second hand TQ, backwards until talking to HG. After switching it, I have not noticed any increase/decrease in warmth.

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    I dont know about the specific brand your talking about but I do know about down sleeping bags and clothing (same rules should apply).

    All down is not created equal. . Down comes in various grades and from various sources (the most common that I know of are duck and goose).

    What's the ratio of down to feather? 70/30? 80/20? 90/10? 97/3?
    And what bird did it come from?
    Also whats the fill power and weight?
    All this should be on a label sewn to the tq

    As for the loft, the orientation of the fabric doesn't change the amount of space the down has to loft into, so it shouldnt make any difference. Though the fabric on the inner of most down products is generally looser to allow the down to loft around the body, reducing cold air space and feeling warmer to the user. The inner fabric is often softer and more breathable, as the outer fabric has to protect the down more.

    You say that it lofts more with the black side out, this suggests to me that the black side is the inner, more breathable fabric, and that it lofts faster as it has more air being drawn in faster. Have you left it overnight in both directions to see?

    If it is an old down product then maybe sending it to a specialist cleaning company will help as it could be that the down is getting clogged with greese and dirt over the years.. big companies like Rab and Montane offer such a service and can rejuvenate the loft and warmth of the bag to aprox 97% of the original value.

    If the mix is 70/30 (down/feather) then you could possibly wash it yourself (check the weight of the tq and your machines capacity as the tq will hold 12x its weight in water) though it may take 5-6 weeks to dry properly in a warm room. And it can stink if its not goose down untill its totally dry.
    Last edited by SurvivalStudent; 01-06-2013 at 21:16.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SurvivalStudent View Post
    As for the loft, the orientation of the fabric doesn't change the amount of space the down has to loft into, so it shouldnt make any difference. Though the fabric on the inner of most down products is generally looser to allow the down to loft around the body, reducing cold air space and feeling warmer to the user. The inner fabric is often softer and more breathable, as the outer fabric has to protect the down more.
    While the rest of your information was correct and very valuable for folks looking at down products, underquilts are generally (and Hammock Gear underquilts are specifically) made with one side larger than the other--what's called "differentially cut". This allows the inner (upper) layer to cradle the hammock's occupant while the outer (lower) layer is large enough to allow the down to loft properly. If reversed, the user's body will prevent the down from lofting, since the outer layer at that point is too small.

    Hope it helps!
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    Thanks for that, dont know where I got the top quilt from, my apologies. . For the under quilt I can fully understand how the cut would restrict loft.
    I would assume though then that the outer face of the underquilt would be a harder wearing material, though I dont own any under quilts and only basing this on my assumptions.
    Once again though thank you for pointing out my error in thought, we're all learning new stuff all the time and I just have now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SurvivalStudent View Post
    Thanks for that, dont know where I got the top quilt from, my apologies. . For the under quilt I can fully understand how the cut would restrict loft.
    I would assume though then that the outer face of the underquilt would be a harder wearing material, though I dont own any under quilts and only basing this on my assumptions.
    Once again though thank you for pointing out my error in thought, we're all learning new stuff all the time and I just have now.
    Not a problem.

    Some of them are higher DWR on the outer layer, some of them aren't. Not sure about this particular quilt.
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    My quilt is the hammock gear 0 incubator.

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