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    New idea for my suspension

    So, after testing my climbing ring suspension, I got a great idea. My idea? bowline knot on one side, trucker hitch on the other to adjust. I would tie these knots where the amsteel meets the tree huggers. What do you hammockers think?

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    Sounds like a simple and foolproof system. Check for slips. The amsteel is pretty slick.

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    Amsteel is pretty slick and knots are not recommened since it derates it's strength and introduces an area of potential failure however, many people have used knots in amsteel successfully. Most people will recommend splicing but give it a try.
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    In addition to what the others said, my concern would be that the bowline knot would be pretty much impossible to adjust after setting (without a lot of work, anyhow). I like being able to adjust both sides so that I make sure it stays centered under the tarp, if I want to move the foot end up a bit more, etc. This would limit that.

    Is there a specific reason you don't want to use whoopies? Easy to adjust and pretty cool... or if you're really wanting these kinds of knots, maybe a trucker's hitch at each end?
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    Quote Originally Posted by breyman View Post
    In addition to what the others said, my concern would be that the bowline knot would be pretty much impossible to adjust after setting (without a lot of work, anyhow). I like being able to adjust both sides so that I make sure it stays centered under the tarp, if I want to move the foot end up a bit more, etc. This would limit that.

    Is there a specific reason you don't want to use whoopies? Easy to adjust and pretty cool... or if you're really wanting these kinds of knots, maybe a trucker's hitch at each end?
    Yea, I don't want to waste the rings. Plus, I think having a single strand intead of an adjustable loop (like whoopie slings)has more tree distance options. But, I'm a noob, so I could be wrong. In addition, I still have 27 feet of amsteel, but whoopie slings look hard to make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreakMan View Post
    Yea, I don't want to waste the rings. Plus, I think having a single strand intead of an adjustable loop (like whoopie slings)has more tree distance options. But, I'm a noob, so I could be wrong. In addition, I still have 27 feet of amsteel, but whoopie slings look hard to make.
    There is more of a minimum distance with whoopies, which should be taken into account.

    You might want to look into Single Ring Suspension. It makes things adjustable, has a shorter minimum distance and would let you use rings. I've used it with success and like it as an approach in my bag of tricks. You'd still have to make locked brummels (loops) at one end, but do a quick search here and you'll see it's easier than it sounds to do...
    http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=62266
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreakMan View Post
    Yea, I don't want to waste the rings. Plus, I think having a single strand intead of an adjustable loop (like whoopie slings)has more tree distance options. But, I'm a noob, so I could be wrong. In addition, I still have 27 feet of amsteel, but whoopie slings look hard to make.
    They can be intimidating at first but its not difficult and there are videos and pictorials to help. Once completed it's a satisfying feeling that makes you want to make other things out of amsteel. You have enough to make 2 six foot whoopie sling which, coupled with six foot tree straps is a very common set up that would work in most situations. Give it a try, I'm sure you'll get the hang of it.
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    +1 on what Bubba said. After making one whoopie, you realize they are a piece of cake!
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreakMan View Post
    Yea, I don't want to waste the rings...
    Or use the rings close to the hammock as drip rings and attach whoopies to that.

    Amsteel is a poor choice for knot tying. You will find it difficult to untie many knots after they have been loaded and set.

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    amsteel looses half its strength when knots are tied. When you use amsteel you have to splice. That goes with dyanaglide, zing it , lash it.
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