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  1. #1
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    BlackBird Ordered but . . .

    Help,

    I'm just getting back into backpacking as a way to reduce stress, body weight and to enjoy life.

    I'm 6'1, currently 230 lbs and live in Houston.

    Most of my backpacking will be in and around Houston with yearly trips to areas such as Flagstaff, North Carolina, etc.

    So what I've asked Brandon to prepare for me is a Double 1.7 with the webbing suspension.

    Does everyone concur that this is the best option (compared to the Jack's R Better version)?

    Additionally . . . what else do I need?

    - I was thinking a Jack's R Better Quilt to keep warm, but what about for underneath me?
    - What about a tarp?

    Other suggestions are welcomed. I'll continue to read through the forums looking for answers as well.

    Cheers,
    Chris

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    Well, in my opinion the BB from Warbonnetguy is the best thing out there that I have in my hammock arsenal...... shhhhhh....my wife doesn't really know how many hammocks I do have!! great comfort and ease of hanging. It's like hitting the lottery IMO.

    As far as tarps, check out a MacCat, best out there for the money

    www.outdoorequipmentsupplier.com/about.html

    As far as insulation, it all depends on what conditions you will be hanging in. There is plenty out there as far as pads, quilts, both over and under you. Welcome to the hanging crowd.......
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    Wow - two first time posters at once, and one's been a member for two years! Welcome to both of you.

    The "best" hammock is completely a personal preference...what's comfortable for my body type and sleeping style may not match yours, so my "best" will differ from yours. But everybody seems to agree that the BB is a very comfortable hammock with a very flat lay.

    And a top quilt certainly a convenient way to stay warm. I use the JRB No Sniveler for almost all of my camping, and just got the Shenandoah for summer camping. Very good quality gear.

    Re: the tarp, that depends on the conditions you'll be camping in. I think the MacCat Standard is an excellent compromise between light weight, easy setup, and good coverage. It's my go-to tarp for most condition. I'm also testing a JRB 10x11 tarp...enormous coverage, which is great for cold windy conditions and hanging two hammocks under it. Of course, it's heavier and takes more space to set up than one of the smaller version...so like I said, we need more info on your average camping trip to recommend a tarp.

    Same with bottom insulation...what you need depends on conditions and on what you're comfortable with. You might as well start with 2 Walmart CCF camping pads and see if you're comfortable on them. If so, you can save a a couple hundred dollars in underquilts. If not, you're only out $12 and now you know for sure why you're spending a couple hundred dollars in underquilts (or more for some of us).
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    Chris,

    Welcome to the addiction! You've hit a home run with the BlackBird, from what I hear. You've ordered EXACTLY what I would order.

    (I hope to have a BB some day soon. I know Brandon has been swamped, so I decided to wait until after the holiday craziness has settled a bit for him.)

    I see that you're in Houston and will be more than willing to help, if I can. I'm in the Spring area. I'm no expert by ANY stretch of the imagination as far as all this hammock camping is concerned...but I'll be glad to lend a hand.

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    "And another one bites the dust"

    Insert evil laugh here.

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    Alan,

    I emailed brandon this afternoon . . . only a two week wait.

    Pm sent about Houston

    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    Chris,

    Welcome to the addiction! You've hit a home run with the BlackBird, from what I hear. You've ordered EXACTLY what I would order.

    (I hope to have a BB some day soon. I know Brandon has been swamped, so I decided to wait until after the holiday craziness has settled a bit for him.)

    I see that you're in Houston and will be more than willing to help, if I can. I'm in the Spring area. I'm no expert by ANY stretch of the imagination as far as all this hammock camping is concerned...but I'll be glad to lend a hand.

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    I am amazed at how Brandon can hammer out these hammocks so fast. He must have a good system of patterns and such. More power to him.
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    Welcome, you have found THE site for info & feedback regarding Hammock camping. Without this forum I probably would have been butt frozen back to ground dwelling.

    In one season I've tried couple other hammocks before settling on the BB as the hammock of choice. The nice thing about hammocks and their accessories is the flexibility for a wide range of conditions. Unfortunately that can result in the collection of a wide range of gear.

    I learned the hard way (pre-hammockforums.net days) that for me I need some form of bottom side insulation once night temps drop below upper-60's. Found out with time that I prefer a quilt vs. bag for topside insulation and prefer moderate tarp coverage. Eventually you will figure out what works for you under the conditions you camp in.

    For what it's worth, this is my current kit that I'm real content with.
    Hammock: WBG BB 1.1 single
    Tarp: OES MC Deluxe Spinntex
    Topside Insulation: BMW UL 90 for T>mid 60'sF
    JRB Nest for T<mid 60'sF, warm down to the low 20'sF
    Bottomside Insulation: HH ocf+sb+JRB WS2 for temps down to mid 40F
    JRB Mt. Washington for T<mid 40'sF

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    Chris, I have the exact BB that you ordered. I am 220 pound and I think the double bottom is a must for me, also Brandon says they lay flatter. Congrats on your new BB. Mule
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    Thanks everyone for all the help.

    Being that I'm in houston, most of my camping will be in a very hot and humid enviornment. I tend to sleep hot. Is their a temperature range in which you don't even mess with an UQ?

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