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    Oooo very nice reading, thanks oldgringo!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldRagFreeze View Post
    What knots are you using? The weight will be more regardless, per foot of useable tree strap. Yours may not weigh more than one sewn with the same length of strap, but you have less available to you.
    A Water Knot makes a fine non-slipping loop for the end of tree straps.
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    Could someone point me to a "how to" on a water knot that forms a loop? What I find is a knot for joining the ends of two pieces of rope.

    I always wonder if people are actually referring to a figure 8 loop tied with a bight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmcttr View Post
    Could someone point me to a "how to" on a water knot that forms a loop? What I find is a knot for joining the ends of two pieces of rope.

    I always wonder if people are actually referring to a figure 8 loop tied with a bight.
    +1

    I don't see how a water knot would work here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmcttr View Post
    Could someone point me to a "how to" on a water knot that forms a loop? What I find is a knot for joining the ends of two pieces of rope.

    I always wonder if people are actually referring to a figure 8 loop tied with a bight.

    Dunno- but it's a Water Knot for sure.
    The easiest way, according to another thread poster who taught me, is to simply make a flat loop at one end; then tie an overhand knot into the center of that loop - making sure the remaining loop is at least as large as you need (i prefer a larger loop so the webbing is easier to thread through). Believe you should leave a tail hanging of 4-6 inches beyond the loop when you do this - for safety.

    However, if you use animatedknots.com, or some such as your guide, then use the two ends of your 1-treestrap as the "Two" pieces of webbing - pull the longer standing end back through the loop made by the 1st step in tying the knot.

    Hope that makes sense...maybe someone w more experience can splain better?
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    I think you make an overhand knot, form a bight with the bitter end, and feed the bitter end back through the overhand knot as you would the second piece of webbing. Just my best guess. It looks exactly like an overhand knot on a bight, to me.
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    I get that... But that does not allow me to make a loop on just one end of a tree strap as would be used with a marlin spike and whoopies. It seems the people saying to use a water knot are using a loop larks headed around the tree instead. Am I missing something?

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    It seems to me, and maybe I'm just not picturing it correctly, but the weight wouldn't be distributed to the lower portion of the second strap unless you put them so they touch. In which case you can just get a 2" strap right? Am I missing something

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    Here is a picture if this helps, just make an overhand knot about 8 inches or so (depending on the size of loop you want) then feed the loose end back through the knot following through the overhand knot adjust so there is a couple inches to spare and tighten. If you want the details on a water knot: here

    Make sure it make it nice and neat!

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