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    I've spent lots of time in the White Mountains and I cannot begin to imagine camping in the winter up there. Brrrrrrrr!

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    Hey neighbor. I'm a big fan of hangin "down on the blue". Normally the Blue Primitive Area is void of people even at the campgrounds. Even if you car camp your still pretty remote. Daytime temperatures are always nice but, the nights are cold till May.

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    edD270 - Thanks for responding, we'll have to set a time and place and go for it.

    "O" - I have to admit I've never even been down on the Blue. Our family had a grazing permit stretching from Nutrioso to Pat Knoll and I spent most of my time in that area, but most of my old stomping grounds were burnt in the Wallow Fire. Over the past 10 years I've been taking trips around the mountains that I never had a chance to. As a matter of fact, we had just been on a horse pack trip to Bear Wallow where the fire originated about a month before the fire started. What a tragedy that whole thing is.
    Do what needs to be done when it needs doing.

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    Spartacus19-I have to agree bear wallow was pretty much nuked. It will be years to recover. But the fire did do a lot of good along the black river downstream of buffalo crossing, cleared out a lot of brush, also killed all the fish. I think you would like the Blue, it's made for horse packing, I'm a backpacker and it's some rugged country. The road in from Alpine is a little tricky during winter. The Red Hill road is a little better for trailers, you turn at Beaverhead. Or there is always the Pueblo Park Road from Reserve. The Blue Canyon keeps pretty clear of snow even in winter. A nice weekend trip is to Hanna Hot Springs (keep that a secret).

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    will Hanna be there? :LOL:

    i've been to the Blue range only once. that entire area (se of Hannagan) looks wild! need to go back, for shure.

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    Wild yes, you are on the food chain. Bears, wolves, and lions are the big predators, but rare. Deer and elk are abundant, I have seen mountain goats, kit foxes and bobcats as well. There's rumor of big horn sheep but I have never seen them.

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    AZ>Flagstaff?>Suggestions?

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    +1 on The Blue. We've spent some time there back in the late '70s, Beautiful country, and filled with wildlife. I've not been there recently, but reports are the "reintroduced" wolves have established quite a good population there. There are bighorn sheep, but they are hard to see unless you get up into their rugged country. Lions and bears have been there for a long time in good numbers. Be prepared.

    The way the weather has been this winter, be looking for early and extreme fire conditions and restrictions up here in the mountains. It's been cold, but very dry, and now it's seeming like spring. Supposed to be in the upper 50's and lower 60's this week, with lows in the 30's. If you're going to camp up here, better get 'er done before the fires restrictions go into effect.
    You can be wet and miserable, or you can choose to just be wet.

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    AZ>Flagstaff?>Suggestions?

    Any thoughts on where me and my 10-year old could hang this weekend? Nothing too cold or super isolated. I'm kind of thinking somewhere west of Sedona or in the forest by Stoneman Lake. We will be driving out of Phoenix.

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    Has there been anymore discussion on an Arizona hang? I'm in NM, but I'd love to hang with you guys. The White Mountains look good to me.
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