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    Continuous loop or whoopie

    Need some opinions... I have been researching some suspension alternatives to my Eno Dn. I'm sold on the whoopie slings but I've seen a few different set ups I have an interest in hence my need for help. I've seen the whoopie strung through the Dn and connected to tree strap via marlin spike hitch (which is first on my list, via suggestions from the great people here), but I've also seen folks make a continuous loop to attach to the hammock then attach the fixed eye of whoopie to tree strap and adjustable end of whoopie to the continuous loop (I think, that's what it looked like to me anyways). Any thoughts as to what's better, or something I hadn't thought of? Thanks ahead of time for any suggestions.

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    The biggest advantage to the second method is if your trees are too close together you can "bypass" the whoopie and loop the continuous loop directly over the marlin spike hitch - thereby lessening your overall distance needed to hang your hammock by 2-4 feet or more.

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    Two variations of the same thing. Both work well. I prefer the later (illustrated version below) for the following reasons. Others probably approach it your first way, with similarly good reasons.

    Why I like the following:
    - Let's me remove the whoopie sling easily to store in a separate ziplog bag in the event it gets wet (that way, it doesn't get the hammock wet).
    - Let's me have one set of whoopie slings with a dutch hook on them that can attach to any hammock I have as long as it has a continuous loop on it.
    - It's just a bit lighter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tendertoe View Post
    The biggest advantage to the second method is if your trees are too close together you can "bypass" the whoopie and loop the continuous loop directly over the marlin spike hitch - thereby lessening your overall distance needed to hang your hammock.
    Ooohh, forgot that one. Good point there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by breyman View Post
    It's just a bit lighter.
    How could adding a piece of hardware (whoopie hook) and a continuous loop to the whoopie system make it lighter? The only weight savings I could see is that you don't need a toggle... But surely the whoopie hook and continuous loop offset that savings.

    I agree with your other advantages, but I can't see it being any lighter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tendertoe View Post
    The biggest advantage to the second method is if your trees are too close together you can "bypass" the whoopie and loop the continuous loop directly over the marlin spike hitch - thereby lessening your overall distance needed to hang your hammock by 2-4 feet or more.
    +1 on Tendertoe's explanation!
    Also by connecting to the loop with a Dutch Whoopie Hook, you can quickly swap a suspension from one hammock to another, and another, and another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldRagFreeze View Post
    How could adding a piece of hardware (whoopie hook) and a continuous loop to the whoopie system make it lighter? The only weight savings I could see is that you don't need a toggle... But surely the whoopie hook and continuous loop offset that savings.

    I agree with your other advantages, but I can't see it being any lighter.
    For me, when I go with a MSH, I usually need a slightly longer tree strap. As a result, for me, this approach is just a bit lighter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by breyman View Post
    For me, when I go with a MSH, I usually need a slightly longer tree strap. As a result, for me, this approach is just a bit lighter.
    Gotcha, that makes sense. Tree straps are difficult to judge; you know what you can usually get away with, but there's always going to be that perfect spot that you just can't make work because the tree is too large. That happened to me on my last trip. I found another spot, but had to pass up on a really great one.

    As much as I hate the added weight I'm thinking I'm going to start carrying a six foot and an eight foot tree strap. That way I should be able to make some bigger trees or wider spacing work in a pinch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldRagFreeze View Post
    How could adding a piece of hardware (whoopie hook) and a continuous loop to the whoopie system make it lighter? The only weight savings I could see is that you don't need a toggle... But surely the whoopie hook and continuous loop offset that savings.

    I agree with your other advantages, but I can't see it being any lighter.
    The hooks weigh 3-4 grams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by breyman View Post
    Two variations of the same thing. Both work well. I prefer the later (illustrated version below) for the following reasons. Others probably approach it your first way, with similarly good reasons.

    Why I like the following:
    - Let's me remove the whoopie sling easily to store in a separate ziplog bag in the event it gets wet (that way, it doesn't get the hammock wet).
    - Let's me have one set of whoopie slings with a dutch hook on them that can attach to any hammock I have as long as it has a continuous loop on it.
    - It's just a bit lighter.

    I too like this idea. However, do you feel you lose some of the freedom to fine tune length adjustments? I'm thinking with the set you have described here, the only adjustment one can make is with the whoopie sling alone. But when you attach the whoopie to the hammock with no continuous loop, you have both the MSH and the adjustability of the whoopie. I hope I'm making sense, just interested in what others have experienced.

    Thanks to everyone for their valuable input.

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