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  1. #11
    titanium_hiker's Avatar
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    the reason they cost more than a hammock (and also the tarps more than the hammock, if you're buying those separate) is the cost of the materials (good quality stuff, light stuff can be spendy) and for down, the man hours required. Check with anyone who has diy'd a down quilt, and they'll say that it wasn't that much of a cost saving over buying one, if you factor in the time.

    It's a funny thing that a lot of people have, saying "wow, that costs more than a hammock!" but remember that the hammock is just a piece of fabric with some suspension and maybe a bug net. you can make one yourself for 10$ for materials and maybe an hour. But it's the equivalent of the ground sheet of a tent (way more comfy, but still just like a ground sheet) and those don't cost much, or do to much except give you a place to lie (that is either protected from the ground-seep by being waterproof or by suspending you above the ground).

    The bug net/tent inner and tarp/fly and pad/under-insulation and sleeping-bag/top-insulation are what do the 'real work' of keeping you warm, dry and bug free, whether above ground or on the ground.

    TH
    my hammock gear weights total: 2430g (~86oz)
    Winter: total 2521 (~89oz)
    (see my profile for detailed weights)

    gram counter, not gram weenie!

  2. #12

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    Hammocks arrived today and I ordered two jarbidge UQs over the weekend. It was -12C when I went out to the mailbox to pick up the box. Little chilly to set this up out side. Guess i am going to have to wait to try this out.

  3. #13
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    Too chilly? Our friends South of the border were just out in a lot colder than -12C.
    http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/s...943#post918943

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    Looks like they had fun. I think I need more then just my hh to camp out in that weather.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banjoman View Post
    Yep, gotta have insulation. That was my first rude awakening on my first trip out to hang... It was summer, so I thought I'd be ok since I've done without on tent outings in similar weather. However, the underside of you will get cold really easy. Do lots of reading of old posts here on the forum, and you will find plenty of advice about this. Wish I had done that before I started.
    At what temp can I leave my underpad and/or UC at home and still be comfortable?

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    Personally, I intend to leave mine on unless the weather is extremely warm. Low's of 20C or higher I may remove it.

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    Senior Member Banjoman's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by hawghangar View Post
    At what temp can I leave my underpad and/or UC at home and still be comfortable?
    Well I guess that depends on the clothes you are wearing, other things you have to keep you warm, and your natural tolerance for coolness. I think most people say that you want something underneath you once it gets to 70F or lower... I would say that is about right for me too. I'd probably raise it a couple of degrees because I tend to like it relatively warmer when I sleep.

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