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    Senior Member ka8yiu's Avatar
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    SS or UQ best for HH bottom entry?

    Hmmmm...Not meant to be coded!

    I know a lot of things are subject to personal preference, but is there a more popular, or better choice for a bottom entry HH?

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    I am not happy with the fiddle factor of using the bottom entry or birth canal. I am goint to go it a UQ, it is just one thing to adjust. With my supershelter undercover, I have the undercover, the pad, the space blanket, which is now tied onto the underpad, which is sort of delicate. I am sure with a little practice a normal person could manage entry just fine. My shoulders dislocate, plus I have a computer in one shoulder. I do not want to fiddle with my kit, I just want to set it up and climb in, I do not want to pull this or that to get it all sorted out. I am happy with how my Supershelter keeps me warm, however, I cut the bug net off my hennessy, I did not use the birth canal, I climbed in the top, my daughter adjusted the SuperShelter under pad and space blanket for me. I do not want her to have to help me in the future. For me with my limitations I will be using a Under Quilt with a splatter guard in the future.

    Really personal preference is the key. I think it is BillyBob54???knows alot about the HH SS he would be the best source to help you decide what you want to use for your needs.

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    I can't speak to the SS but can speak to the JRB Nest. I put one on my HH and could not be happier. No fiddle factor for me and I do use the bottom entry. Due to mobility issues it is the only hammock I have been able to manage alone. I have used the Nest down to 30F and been most happy with it.

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    Well, there must be a thousand threads on this very subject. Probably best to just search it, but here are a few to get you started:
    http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=58158

    http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=38352

    http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=50988

    Comes down to this: I am somewhat of a fan for 6 years now (though I also really like my UQs and Pea Pod) and I find the system to have close to zero fiddle factor once I have it installed per HH directions. Though I do prefer a side entry or No Net HH so that I can adjust any clothing I might add below with ease. I find it competitively warm for it's weight and cost, and though not as compressible as an 800 fp down UQ, it is more so than a synthetic UQ and way more than a CCF pad. And I do not have condensation issues with it, and love how it is the ONLY system which includes significant wind and moisture block as part of the basic system. Good for me in the 30s, way lower by adding clothing or other insulation.

    Others feel more like Hurtheart as far as fiddle factor, and some are not warm enough and some have significant condensation issues. You can read here till you are blue in the face, but many will like it and many won't, and you will never really know until you try it yourself.
    For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us....that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now.
    Romans 8:18,21-22

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    The SS with the bottom entry is fine. You get it set up and then just slip in. Easy! It is an insultation system designed for the hammock. Fits great, works well. No problem. IMHO.
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    I'm very happy with the SS. I also like the bottom entry. I plan to buy the Winter Nest for winter camping, but the SS worked well down to -2C so far. Before the SS I was using a OCF pad and reflective bubble pad. There was a fair amount of fiddling to get it under you and keep it there. Now I just slide the pad into the SS, attach to the stakes, and crawl in. No more having anything to move around. It only adds about 45 seconds to a minute to setup time.

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    The Nest works great on my HH Expedition Bottom Entry and also works well with my DIY. It will get me down to about 30. With a pad added I can go lower. I have no experience with the SS.
    Keep movin', keep believing and enjoy the journey!

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    Senior Member Roche's Avatar
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    I've used the SS and UQ on both bottom entry and zip models.

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    I am strongly considering going back to the SS on my Explorer. I have never been cold when using one and the curiosity of how low could I go is eating at me. And it would give me another usable hammock so I could loan one out. Kinda wishing I had not sold mine now....
    Maybe ill start looking for a deal on one next week.
    Last edited by Gary_R; 01-22-2013 at 16:54.

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    Senior Member Banjoman's Avatar
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    I'm camping this weekend, and Friday night it is supposed to get into the teens. I'll be using my SS for the first time, and will be bringing everything but the kitchen sink to stay warm (including my tent, as a final fallback option). I'll be car camping so my pickup will be loaded with gear . I wish I had the patience to slowly add pieces onto my system, but I know that I won't want to mess with it when it will be so cold so I'll probably pile it all on/in/around. The next night, it is supposed to be mid 20's so I might play a little bit with it. I'll let you know how I think it performed.

    I also have a AHE Jarbidge, which will be part of my insulation plans somehow... either shoved inside the SS or one of my top insulation layers. Does anyone have a suggestion for best use of the Jarbidge in this situation? I'll be bringing several sleeping bags to use as top/bottom/around insulation too.

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