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    Quote Originally Posted by dakotaross View Post
    For those using sleeping bags with UQs, keep in mind that the enclosed sleeping bag is somewhat subversive to what the UQ offers. In theory, the UQ and TQ are like a sleeping bag with you and the hammock in between. So, if you've got a nice, expensive UQ, definitely drape the sleeping bag so that you're lying directly on the UQ. Otherwise, you're adding another layer, however "crushed" it might be, between you and the efficient insulating properties of the UQ.

    Keep in mind that its your body heat that makes these things work. An enclosed sleeping bag is designed to trap that heat, the same heat that is supposed to be making the UQ cozy for you.
    I don't see how this would be an issue. I'd rather keep as much heat as close to me as possible. Besides, if the sleeping bag were insulating enough on the bottom for this to be an issue than you wouldn't need an UQ anyway. That just doesn't make sense. Either the sleeping bag is insulating on the bottom and keeping that heat close to your body, which is good, or it's not and it is a non-issue. This is like the guys that will tell you that wearing clothes in a sleeping bag detracts from the insulative properties...
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    My 30 and 15 down bags weigh 2.4lb and 2.75lb respectively, so it's not like I'm hauling around big old 6lb bags but there is a good 1-2lbs to be saved. Hmmm...still thinking...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldRagFreeze View Post
    I don't see how this would be an issue. I'd rather keep as much heat as close to me as possible. Besides, if the sleeping bag were insulating enough on the bottom for this to be an issue than you wouldn't need an UQ anyway. That just doesn't make sense. Either the sleeping bag is insulating on the bottom and keeping that heat close to your body, which is good, or it's not and it is a non-issue. This is like the guys that will tell you that wearing clothes in a sleeping bag detracts from the insulative properties...
    I have to agree. While that may sound logical, I've never had an issue with my sleeping bags. 30 Marmot + 40UQ down to 30 no problem at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldRagFreeze View Post
    I don't see how this would be an issue. I'd rather keep as much heat as close to me as possible. Besides, if the sleeping bag were insulating enough on the bottom for this to be an issue than you wouldn't need an UQ anyway. That just doesn't make sense. Either the sleeping bag is insulating on the bottom and keeping that heat close to your body, which is good, or it's not and it is a non-issue. This is like the guys that will tell you that wearing clothes in a sleeping bag detracts from the insulative properties...
    I see you are currently using a pad... Have you tried a under quilt yet?
    We would be one step closer to world peace, if everyone slept in a hammock..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Gout View Post
    I see you are currently using a pad... Have you tried a under quilt yet?
    Nope, never even seen one in person.
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    Don't do it then....You will never be the same.. When you see one....Run away!!!
    We would be one step closer to world peace, if everyone slept in a hammock..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Gout View Post
    Don't do it then....You will never be the same.. When you see one....Run away!!!
    I know, that's the plan.

    I know I'd love it, but I'm sleeping comfortably and warm now in sub-freezing temps... So I'm gonna try to put off any talk of UQs for at least another year. Maybe next Christmas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dakotaross View Post
    For those using sleeping bags with UQs, keep in mind that the enclosed sleeping bag is somewhat subversive to what the UQ offers. In theory, the UQ and TQ are like a sleeping bag with you and the hammock in between. So, if you've got a nice, expensive UQ, definitely drape the sleeping bag so that you're lying directly on the UQ. Otherwise, you're adding another layer, however "crushed" it might be, between you and the efficient insulating properties of the UQ.

    Keep in mind that its your body heat that makes these things work. An enclosed sleeping bag is designed to trap that heat, the same heat that is supposed to be making the UQ cozy for you.
    keep in mind that you don't use the sleeping bag as a sleeping bag. You use it as a quilt unzipped and it covers you like a quilt.

    This is a good way to use what you have until you can buy a TQ
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ewker View Post
    keep in mind that you don't use the sleeping bag as a sleeping bag. You use it as a quilt unzipped and it covers you like a quilt.

    This is a good way to use what you have until you can buy a TQ
    I use it as a sleeping bag... I still don't think his concerns are legitimate.
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    Talk me into a TQ!

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