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    Acer's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by WV View Post
    Why not cut them off and skip the experience of having the tarp going flying in the breeze?
    I have done that before,,,and seriously considering it.

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    I see no reason for D rings unless you want to quickly clip a Dutch Stinger or a Carabinier. If the rings fail you will have to fix it like you did. Subjecting the tarp to the damage anyway. It may prolong the damage to the tarp, but not with out the cost of being a weight penalty and having to re rig your tarp twice.

    On a related side note: I'm debating cutting all the D rings off of my Incubator, only thing hold ding me back is resale value, when the next greatest thing comes out...
    Last edited by packeagle; 01-27-2013 at 22:27.

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    If you think there is a chance that they may break, why not add a "saftey". A short piece of cord between the ridge guy and tarp would serve the purpose. If you used a loop if zing-it, or even a piece of shock cord, if the D ring were to break, at least the tarp wouldn't fall on you, and you would must have to tighten the ridge, and your back in action. Just my. 02......RR
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roadrunnr72 View Post
    If you think there is a chance that they may break, why not add a "saftey". A short piece of cord between the ridge guy and tarp would serve the purpose. If you used a loop if zing-it, or even a piece of shock cord, if the D ring were to break, at least the tarp wouldn't fall on you, and you would must have to tighten the ridge, and your back in action. Just my. 02......RR
    absolutely genius solution to the thing flpping in the wind if/when it breaks.
    "We do not go to the green woods and crystal waters to rough it, we go to smooth it."- G. W. Sears

    My forum name is Fish<><; I'm in the navy; and I hate sleeping on the ground. If I didn't need ground to walk on or measure resistance to, I think I could happily give it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stormcrow View Post
    Hi Blackfoot,

    Sorry to hear about the D-rings snapping. More than likely it was due to the colder temperatures affecting the plastic while under load. While we have tested them in most conditions, including single digits, and had good results, I can see that there could be conditions where they might fail (obviously). They are, after all, 1/2 inch plastic d-rings.

    We decided to use those particular rings for a couple of reasons. One, they go a long way to keep the weight down. I would put Dutchware titanium d-rings on every tarp if I could afford it. They are strong and who does not like titanium? Also, we build the tarp in such a way that if there is a failure to one of the d-rings, the remaining webbing attachment can still be used for the pullout. This allows the user to finish the trip and send it back to us for repair if deemed necessary.

    We have a good number of our cuben tarps out in the market now and we have had only heard of a very few instances of failure. Few enough that manufacture defects of the d-rings themselves could be a factor.

    It goes without say, but I will say it, that we will fix your tarp if you send it back to us. I apologize for any hardship you might have experienced out on the trail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fronkey View Post
    I have just last week during extreme winds. D rings are just plastic and it really isn't a biggie that it happpened. They are the weakest link on a tarp and something like the trees swaying could have popped them off. Better thank than the tarp itself.


    Fronkey
    I have a new HG Cuben Fiber tarp. If I clip Dutchware Stingerz directly to the tie-out loop, rather than the D-ring, with Zing-it/Lash-it ridgeline, am I putting my tarp at risk of damage? I am not equipped for extreme cold, thinking more of wind.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninjahamockman View Post
    This is why I like cottage vendors they support the customer after the buy. Yeah stormcrow will take care of you
    Absolutely, and just to be clear StormCrow did reach out to me both in the forum and privately within an hour of the original post offering to do whatever was needed to repair the tarp to my satisfaction at no cost. You have to love a vendor who stands behind his gear 100%. Thanks Adam!
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    Prefers life at 12 MPH. FLRider's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roadrunnr72 View Post
    If you think there is a chance that they may break, why not add a "saftey". A short piece of cord between the ridge guy and tarp would serve the purpose. If you used a loop if zing-it, or even a piece of shock cord, if the D ring were to break, at least the tarp wouldn't fall on you, and you would must have to tighten the ridge, and your back in action. Just my. 02......RR
    That's a wonderful idea. I love having a "firebreak" in my tarps; I'd much rather eat the cost of a $0.25 piece of plastic than a $100+ tarp (let alone what Cuben offerings cost). Your idea lets me have my cake and eat it too (isn't that what cake is for?), Roadrunnr72. Not only will the "firebreak" give first, the backup'll allow me to avoid the possible complications of being wet and cold (which might just be even worse than losing some cash; cash is replaceable, life isn't).

    Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fronkey View Post
    I was in 60 mph winds with atleast -20f temps and the cuben held up fine. Funny enough (not at the time) my ridgeline snapped which was 1.75 lash it before the cuben or gross grain got damaged.

    Fronkey
    Sorry, My question had already been addressed.

    Love this forum.

    Thanks

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