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    Quote Originally Posted by Detail Man View Post
    Timberr, I'm assuming you want to use the spreader bars with your Chrysallis bridge hammocks. The spreader bars will function best at the end of each hammock, rather than at the tree. The forces on the spreader bar will be less at the hammock ends. If you try to put them at the tree, as in your diagram, the forces will be much greater, hence the poplar dowels failing.

    The downside to having the bars at the hammock ends is that one occupant transfers his/her motion to the other hammock. Once both occupants are settled in, it's no big deal in my experience.

    To place the spreader bar at the tree, the bar will need to be able to withstand lateral stress more so than compression. Tubing tends to withstand these forces better than solid material The thicker the wall thickness of the tubing, the stiffer the tubing will be.

    Carbon fiber withstands compression quite well, but I'm not sure it would hold up to the lateral forces involved if placed at the tree.
    You got it. Yes, with the Chrysalises (Chrysalii?).
    Okay, so carbon fiber is out. That's basically what I was asking.


    Quote Originally Posted by Dustb2000 View Post
    If your goal is to hang two hammocks just using two trees I've had success using the following method:



    Basically just took a 1" x 2" x 18" board and drilled a hole in each end to run the suspension to for one end.
    We've used this but as Detail Man just pointed out, we are trying to avoid sleeping on two sides of a seesaw so when one person gets up in the night, the other person isn't disturbed.



    Quote Originally Posted by TFC Rick View Post
    Tim is this hiking based or for your boat trips? Would pipe work? Obviously heavy as sin but stout enough to accomplish the deed?
    Yes. Boats or car camping. I've thought of using pipe but something about taking a couple lengths of steel pipe camping just seems inappropriate to me. (as opposed to carbon fiber pipe, I guess)



    Quote Originally Posted by jordo_99 View Post
    I'd probably go with titanium as it's much more forgiving to torque yet still very light.
    When torque is applied to Aluminum poles they bend and carbon shatters but titanium will revert back into it's original shape afterward.

    Ti poles will likely run you about the same as carbon would.

    If you use trekking poles that's definitely the way to go though.

    Another consideration would be to use 4 guy lines and stakes to pull the hammocks apart. Would be lighter and cheaper but some people like to swing so maybe that's not ideal for you.
    Titanium?! That screaming you just heard came from my wallet. I found a site that had carbon poles pretty cheap so it got me thinking about this some more.
    But back to the titanium... What size would you recommend? Is it possible to get it cheaply?

    Thank you everyone for your insights! Gumbo & I really appreciate your input. Feel free to offer any other suggestions to aid us in our quest for the holy grail of hammocking together - not just in the same place at the same time.
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    For we are wild and hunted men.

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    Prefers life at 12 MPH. FLRider's Avatar
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    An off-the-wall thought, but...does anyone make kayak paddles that have removable flippers (don't know the proper term...sculls, maybe?)? If so, how beefy is the shaft? Might be worth a look, if you're worried about packability in the 'yaks/cost of a single-use item.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FLRider View Post
    An off-the-wall thought, but...does anyone make kayak paddles that have removable flippers (don't know the proper term...sculls, maybe?)? If so, how beefy is the shaft? Might be worth a look, if you're worried about packability in the 'yaks/cost of a single-use item.
    Heh..off the wall or not, I like the way you think!
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    Prefers life at 12 MPH. FLRider's Avatar
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    Thanks, Gumbo!

    And...even if no one makes modular paddles, if you could find a normal one that was beefy enough, it shouldn't be too hard to remove the flippers, insert a cotter pin or somesuch, and make it detachable. Unless the whole thing is one extrusion, of course...

    Don't know enough about paddling to be of real help here. Kinda spitballing...
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    To piggyback off of you Flrider, I would think a paddle shaft or two permanently removed of the paddle strapped to the hull of the kayak wouldn't take up too much room. Then you wouldn't have to worry about your paddle mod failing at the worst possible moment (like the wild Florida rapids).
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    They sell kayak paddles that come with 4 sections (for pack rafting).
    Maybe the 2 middle sections, without the paddle, will do the trick for you.
    Then just re-assemble and use these for your paddles

    https://www.alpackaraft.com/index.cf...6&ProductID=71
    Last edited by MAD777; 01-30-2013 at 18:38.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAD777 View Post
    They sell kayak paddles that come with 4 sections (for pack rafting).
    Maybe the 2 middle sections, without the paddle, will do the trick for you.
    Then just re-assemble and use these for your paddles
    Good idea! I'll see if I can find some. Any suggestions on where to start looking?
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    His friends and merry men are we;
    And when the troop of Tarleton rides,
    We burrow in the cypress tree.
    The turfy hammock is our bed,
    Our home is in the red deer's den,
    Our roof, the tree-top overhead,
    For we are wild and hunted men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timberrr View Post
    Good idea! I'll see if I can find some. Any suggestions on where to start looking?
    https://www.alpackaraft.com/index.cf...6&ProductID=71

    http://www.rei.com/product/721663/aq...r-piece-paddle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timberrr View Post
    Good idea! I'll see if I can find some. Any suggestions on where to start looking?
    Here's mine. They have some others also.

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    Hmmm....maybe a pair of replacement handles for post hole diggers. The strong wooden dowels covered with fiberglass. Not light but very strong.

    In the diagram it looks like you have the poles lashed to the trees, attached very close to the tree trunk. Some other straps wrap around the back side of the trees and end up at the pole tips. Could you replace those straps with a pair of ratchet straps. This way, once you get the hammocks set up you can crank up the tension to help put more of a compressional than a bending load on the poles (like a spring pre-load).

    Definitely not an engineer.....but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express one time ;-)

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