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    Senior Member Hototo's Avatar
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    To Dutch clip, or not to Dutch clip... That is the question

    I have come quite a ways in the past month. Started out with just a Eno DN and before I knew it I had three more Hammocks ( 2 DIY and an Eno SN), all converted/ made with whoopies and straps (Courtesy of Dutch, who has yet to yell at me for always placing an order then remember stuff I wanted to get and placing a second order within 24 hours of the first). So here's my dilemma, do the Dutch clips really make things easier? I sewed loops in the straps I got from Dutch and it seems fine to me ( so glad I ditched the Eno Slap Straps), but I keep wondering if the clips would be better. It doesn't help matters that I lurk around here gathering information, see Dutches Ad in the upper right hand corner, click on it, then stare at the screen wondering if I should just order them.

    On one hand I like things to be easier, on the other I just wonder if its something else for me to worry about losing. Anyone have any thoughts to share? Make up my mind for me.
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    Senior Member vwgerald's Avatar
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    i have a set of dutch clips and i love them. i too was worried about another thing to lose, so i just hand sewed a couple of stitches in the webbing to hold the clips in place so there is no chance of them accidently falling out. works like a charm. and yes they do make it easier to setup, dutch clips and cinch buckles are 2 of my favorite things. all of the little things that make it easier add up and save time and headaches, at least for me.

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    It depends on the type of suspension you have. If you have an all strap suspension, then it is a must to have a connector. That could be a climbing rated carabiner or a Dutch clip. Which one would you want to carry for miles in a backpack?

    If you have removeable straps in combination with something like whoopie slings, you don't need any connector. Just thread one end of your strap through the looped end. However, lets say you need to raise or lower the strap after initial setup, but there are branches in the way of doing that. You must un-thread and re-thread the straps. With Dutch clips, you simply unclip, move the strap, and re-clip! Nice and convenient.
    Mike
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    Quote Originally Posted by vwgerald View Post
    i have a set of dutch clips and i love them. i too was worried about another thing to lose, so i just hand sewed a couple of stitches in the webbing to hold the clips in place so there is no chance of them accidently falling out. works like a charm. and yes they do make it easier to setup, dutch clips and cinch buckles are 2 of my favorite things. all of the little things that make it easier add up and save time and headaches, at least for me.
    ...+ 1. I totally agree. And Dutch hooks, for my tarp lines....
    Something hidden. Go and find it. Go, and look behind the Ranges. Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you . . . Go! - Rudyard Kipling

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    As much as I like various pieces of Dutch gear, I've always just threaded the strap through the end loop.

    David

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    My Dutchware has made things easier and quicker of a set up. I really appreciate the ease and quickness especially when it's raining and I'm in a hurry to set up my rig
    "I love not man the less, but Nature more."
    Byron

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    Love my dutch clips. They do make things quick and easy.
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    In my experience they are very handy for all webbing suspension. If you use whoopies and a toggle, the webbing is shorter and separated from the whoopies anyways so it's not as crucial to use them. Either way though I find it quicker to be able to detach the webbing via the Dutch clips vs feeding the webbing through the loop.
    Don't let life get in the way of living.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duffy View Post
    ...+ 1. I totally agree. And Dutch hooks, for my tarp lines....
    Just Dutch Hooks? I heard somebody else say that, could you send me a photo as to how?
    Last edited by Eagle Eye; 02-04-2013 at 08:08. Reason: Wrong post

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    Senior Member nickgann's Avatar
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    Love mine, they are tied onto the guy lines I use, so no chance of losing them unless I lose the tarp too.

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