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    Quote Originally Posted by Detail Man View Post
    Sounds like a great idea.

    Instead of a tensegrity stand, you might want to consider making a couple of Turtledog stands for the presentation. They would be helpful in presenting hammocks, and also to show folks they can have their own stand with minimal cost and skills. Most folks can look at a Turtledog stand and understand how it works. Tensegrity stands have a more significant "wow" factor, but are more complicated to understand and build (thinking of the audience's skill, not yours). For an intro demo I think the KISS (Keep it simple sweetheart) principle applies.
    +1 on what Detail Man says, and congrats on such a wonderful opportunity to educate non- hammock campers about this thing we so enjoy.

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    DetailMan already suggested what I was going to post. Do you want this presentation to be about hammock camping or tensegrities? (Pick one.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by WV View Post
    DetailMan already suggested what I was going to post. Do you want this presentation to be about hammock camping or tensegrities? (Pick one.)
    Clearly my intent was to do a presentation on hammock camping. The only reason I'd suggested using a tensegrity stand was to setup 3 hammocks for demonstration purposes with a minimum of materials to puchase/setup, and with a minimum of "set swapping" between demonstrations.

    I'd already "picked one".

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    I work for a small university and the Outdoor Rec director and I have talked about doing this for the students. He's intrigued enough to let me have a go at it. My students all have ENO's and stretchy slap straps. It's the granola thing to do... set up on campus with their iPad and a latte. I would love to get them to the woods eventually.... Very interested to see how this pans out, Owl and Jazilla.

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    Owl, you could do both. The tensgrity stand for the multiple hammocks, and then a TD stand for the simplicity. Best of both worlds.......RR
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazilla View Post
    I really appreciate it. I really suck at public speaking so this will be a real stretch for me.
    When you talk about something you are passionate and knowledgeable about, it is much easier. Good luck.
    Keep movin', keep believing and enjoy the journey!

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    Got a follow up call from the manager...date is confirmed for the end of April presentation.

    She also noted that she'd mentioned it to some scouts...looks like I'm going to have members of at least one troop in enthusiastic attendance. When we were discussing the LNT applications and how I've demo'ed tree straps to some local rangers to alleviate some of their fears about damage from hammocks, she's also opted to invite a friend of hers who is the director of a local series of parks not tied to the state park system...so that he might be able to see how we do things and MAYBE consider modifying some of the current restrictions preventing us from hanging in these parks.

    Now I just gotta make sure I don't botch this!

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    I also live south of Kansas City. I might be available to assist if you like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roadrunnr72 View Post
    Owl, you could do both. The tensgrity stand for the multiple hammocks, and then a TD stand for the simplicity. Best of both worlds.......RR
    Roadrunnr72 beat me to it. Shouldn't cost you much more to put together a turtledog stand. In fact the cheaper you can put one together the better. Show how simple and cheap a stand can be. You dont even have to use hinges. Mine is lashed together with rope. Simple cheap and easy. The top "pole" can be as simple and cheap as a 12' 2x4. Not highly portable but easily doable for demonstration purposes.
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    OK, so things are coming together for this. Stopped by Home Depot last night and picked up the materials for a turtle dog stand. Already have everything cut to length, just have to assemble it tonight/this weekend and test it out.

    The manager at BW asked me if I'd be willing to share with folks how my stand was put together since she's had a LOT of people asking about indoor/outdoor hammock stands, so I'm putting together a sheet on that to share at the class.

    Last thought...I'd had a few folks ask to see the outline (Which is extremely high level...simply the speaking points I want to cover) that I've put together so far. I figured I'd share it here, and solicit whatever input you fine folks would like to add.

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    -LNT (Tree straps, no footprint)
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    -Lack of trees
    -“Hang forces” and their effects
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