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    'no sniveller' or pea pod

    'no sniveler' or pea pod

    six of one half dozen of the other?
    a rose by any other name?
    whatever?

    any thoughts about why you would choose one over the other?
    they both look great to me. the pod looks like you can go with out a sleeping bag or a top quilt for most of a thru hike

    I also need a tarp, eno stay dri? jacks tarp? speer tarp?

    pt

    thanks!

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    I own a No Sniveller and a MacCat Deluxe Tarp. Wouldnt have it any other way. I think the Pea Pod could/does cause condensation issues for some. Im a warm sleeper and think that the NS gives you more freedom of movement. The MacCat is great, but the Jacks make a HIGH QUALITY product so you wouldnt go wrong with them either. If you sew your own gear, check out BlackBishops home made BlackCat tarp instructions and make your own. Just my 2 grams...err, 2 cents. BD
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    Depends on what hammock you use - the PeaPod works better on a Speer-type, the JRB works better on a Hennessy. Both good products for what they're designed for.

    The PeaPod needs a top blanket below about 50F. But it also can't close when you use a bug net...which is a must for a thru.

    There are a few threads here about the PeaPod vs Underquilt...check the archives and you'll find some good stuff.
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    depends on what kind of conditions you plan to be sleeping in.
    the pea pod is normally used with a top quilt because the sides of the hammock will tend to hold the pea pod up off of you a few inches.
    but because it's insulated, you can stay warm w/ a lighter quilt than you would w/ just an underquilt.
    you can also leave the top of the pod open so it serves as an underquilt. very versatile piece of equipment.

    bird dog, i believe you must be thinking about some of the socks when you talk about condensation. the only way you would have condensation problems w/ the pea pod is if you zipped it up & slept w/ your face inside. but that would be no different than doing the same w/ a sleeping bag.
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    You could get more use from a No Sniveller because you can also wear them as a down poncho and they convert into a top quilt.
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    Thanks. I probably should have mentioned that I have an ENO single hammock. I was also going to use the eno bug net which looks like it fits around everything. I have spoken with Jacks on the phone and really liked him and his product and have NO DOUBT about the quality. I;m just thinking about warmth and versatility. is the no sniveller and a 35 degree bag a good option?
    man maybe i just need to pull the trigger and live with whatever i get.

    pt

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    Just to further complicate matters for you, the Jacks are closing out their Biker/Hiker quilt that looks like it could be used as a faux PeaPod. I'm very tempted myself. I'd use it with a Nest I recently purchased and a Crazy Crib hammock. I've just spent too much money lately....

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    I got the Biker Quilt and Shenandoah Summer Quilt last summer, to use as a PeaPod-type wraparound and top quilt, respectively.

    The Biker Quilt will not be able to close at the ends since it won't reach the ends of the hammock (unless you and your hammock are ridiculously short). I just stuffed the holes w/clothing, which worked great. That's some saved weight over the Peapod, which runs the entire length of a hammock. I used them in July/August in Maine and New Hampshire, and they were warm enough for the coldest nights I encountered there. No idea as to the actual temps.

    One thing I noticed about the Biker Quilt is that the top tends to get compressed from the forces pulling downward on the rest of the quilt. Also, the down tends to shift to the bottom, since the baffles run the width of the quilt instead of lengthwise. So a top quilt is definitely necessary.

    The Biker Quilt is rather thin, meaning that it provides less warmth/weight than thicker quilts. If I were starting from scratch, I'd get either the Mt Rogers Quilt or yet-to-be-seen Katadhin Quilt over the Biker Quilt. Both are the same design as the Biker Quilt, but thicker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slowhike View Post
    bird dog, i believe you must be thinking about some of the socks when you talk about condensation. the only way you would have condensation problems w/ the pea pod is if you zipped it up & slept w/ your face inside. but that would be no different than doing the same w/ a sleeping bag.
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