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    Raptor Sleep-Shelter Explained...

    Hi everyone, I just wanted to share a new video I made about the Raptor Sleep-Shelter...Please let me know what you all think. VIEW HERE

    I also have two offers on THIS THREAD you may be interested in as well.

    Thanks
    SurvivaLen
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    That looks like a very interesting modular system you have designed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Labrador View Post
    That looks like a very interesting modular system you have designed.
    Thank you,
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    Very interesting looking system. You need some video of someone getting in and out though.

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    Not for me, but great design for the most part and best of luck with the shelter system. I think you have done a lot of people in the future a good justice by being yet another option out there in the way of an all in one system. Once a few get sold and reviews get posted, make sure you stop by and continue to, for the voice of the people. It not only will help you know what people think but can improve your customer support and product by being a part of us. Once again, good luck and see ya around.
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    My forum name is Fish<><; I'm in the navy; and I hate sleeping on the ground. If I didn't need ground to walk on or measure resistance to, I think I could happily give it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fish<>< View Post
    Not for me, but great design for the most part and best of luck with the shelter system. I think you have done a lot of people in the future a good justice by being yet another option out there in the way of an all in one system. Once a few get sold and reviews get posted, make sure you stop by and continue to, for the voice of the people. It not only will help you know what people think but can improve your customer support and product by being a part of us. Once again, good luck and see ya around.
    Thank you, I appreciate your time and comments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NWOHanger View Post
    Very interesting looking system. You need some video of someone getting in and out though.
    Thanks... I agree, at 1:52 on this video Dionne gets out of the hammock.
    That's all I have at the moment, more videos on the way.

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    I was looking at your store page and I am confused. You are advertising a raptor series, but I don't see it anywhere for purchase.

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    One question I have, is how does the top quilt work if you are laying on the diagonal? I would think with it being zipped to the hammock edges, it wouldn't lay directly on top of you.

    That is a whole lot of omnitape/velcro in all of those add on components. I have omni tape on one end of my BMBH for my bug net, but I find that it wears out over time and loses its ability to stick together as securely.

    Omni tape also also adds weight. I realize that you said one zip stick rail weight 75 grams, but for every other one you add that is 75 more grams and that adds up quick.

    Another thing I noticed is that the ridgeline you get when sticking 2 fabric panels together is not a structural one. It is just the omnitape holding things together. It also doesn't seem that it can be adjusted based on user preference.

    Also what suspension comes with the hammock. All that was shown in the video was the continuous loop on each end and that you had it clipped to a carabiner of some sort.

    It's an interesting concept and I hope it works well for you.

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    I've been toying with a modular attachment system for about a year now, and I've been very impressed by how well it works for some things and how difficult it is to engineer others for it.

    Mine's based on Velcro rather than a zipper attachment system; but I can see the attraction of using the zippers with OmniTape, due to how easily OmniTape lets go. Seems a bit fiddly, but I suppose most of that is going to be in the set up at home.

    I'm very impressed by the use of the OmniTape as a ridgeline; it makes a lot of sense for that type of system and surely is strong enough to act as a non-structural one (not sure about an SRL, but I'm willing to play with it and see, for sure...). Did you find OmniTape with a polyester (or other non-stretch) backing, or is it the standard nylon backing (which will stretch and change the lie of the hammock during the night if you're relying on it as an SRL)?

    The top quilts and underquilts are the two things that I'd have questions about, mostly.

    The top quilt seems as if it would have quite a bit of space between it and your body below the head-end attachment point--creating a large(r) air space that your body needs to warm before the trapped air of the insulation. Which, if my understanding of the physics is correct, means that the top quilt will feel colder than a comparably filled quilt that lays directly on top of an user. Have you found that to be true, or am I simply spitting in the wind here?

    The underquilt seems as if it's a standard suspension, just with OmniTape along the edges to seal it up better. Was engineering the size specifications for it versus the hammock difficult (this is where I've run into the largest issues with my own modular system), or does the standard suspension with shock cord obviate that issue? If so, I may have to rethink my DIY system...I'm trying to avoid draft issues and make my underquilt "idiot proof" (with me as the designated idiot), and shock cord just doesn't seem to be the answer there.

    Thanks for taking the time to demo your product and detail all of its features! I certainly appreciate it, and I hope that your business grows!
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