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    For best breathability in the very low temps, my canvas winter sock is great. With using VB clothing at night, and making all effort to keep the down dry, the last thing I want is to trap water vapor inside my hammock sock or rain down frost trying to get out. Obviously the canvas comes at a significant weight penalty, so I only use it when I'm also pulling a sled.

    I have not tried experimenting with a frost bib to help capture some of the moisture from breathing, that may allow for use of the lighter but less breathable fabrics. In the cold I tend to stick with what I know will work.

    I have used a simple nylon sock in cool weather when more ample venting is easier and cold protection not as critical. Though, I would like the option of a packable cold weather sock for times/areas when it would be best to leave the sled at home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vampiresmiley View Post
    For best breathability in the very low temps, my canvas winter sock is great. With using VB clothing at night, and making all effort to keep the down dry, the last thing I want is to trap water vapor inside my hammock sock or rain down frost trying to get out. Obviously the canvas comes at a significant weight penalty, so I only use it when I'm also pulling a sled.

    I have not tried experimenting with a frost bib to help capture some of the moisture from breathing, that may allow for use of the lighter but less breathable fabrics. In the cold I tend to stick with what I know will work.

    I have used a simple nylon sock in cool weather when more ample venting is easier and cold protection not as critical. Though, I would like the option of a packable cold weather sock for times/areas when it would be best to leave the sled at home.
    If you're using VB clothing, the only source for condensation will be your breath. From my experience, frozen breath will condense on the upper part of the sock and not on the insulation. In essence, the frost point is moved from your insulation to the sock (which is not a bad thing).

    If temps are low enough for your breath to freeze on the upper part of the inside of the sock, chances are the relative humidity is low enough to just brush what ice there is off of your insulation. The DWR on most quilts will repel that type of moisture. It's the moisture generated from insensible perspiration that will get stuck in your down. VB should eliminate that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vampiresmiley View Post
    For best breathability in the very low temps, my canvas winter sock is great. With using VB clothing at night, and making all effort to keep the down dry, the last thing I want is to trap water vapor inside my hammock sock or rain down frost trying to get out. Obviously the canvas comes at a significant weight penalty, so I only use it when I'm also pulling a sled.

    I have not tried experimenting with a frost bib to help capture some of the moisture from breathing, that may allow for use of the lighter but less breathable fabrics. In the cold I tend to stick with what I know will work.

    I have used a simple nylon sock in cool weather when more ample venting is easier and cold protection not as critical. Though, I would like the option of a packable cold weather sock for times/areas when it would be best to leave the sled at home.

    How much does your canvas sock weigh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountnman View Post
    How much does your canvas sock weigh?
    It's about 6 lbs, as much or more than the rest of my hammock gear combined...

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    Quote Originally Posted by vampiresmiley View Post
    It's about 6 lbs, as much or more than the rest of my hammock gear combined...
    Holy Gram-killer batman! Didnt realize canvas was that heavy.

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    My 1.1 generated considerable frost along its top that snowed on me. That said, the added warmth, especially around my head and face, as well as the wind break, out weighs the condensation.
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    Hammock socks

    I'd like to throw a thought in here after reading a somewhat consistent complaint about frost/condensation in the TOP of the sock, and the significant WEIGHT of a canvas sock compared to the rest of the kit. My thought is a hybrid sock with a canvas top and a Momentum50 or Nobul1 bottom.
    Last edited by MAD777; 02-27-2013 at 07:58.
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    Don't know if you all remember this or not. But when we were all ground dwellers,,,or at least for me winter treking, mt. climbing,,using tents on the ground, we still had the same same problem of condensation on the sides of the tents inside as well. And it was much roomier in a tent, (volumun of cubic air) over the socks we use with hammocks. And the material used in ultralite tents is similiar to what we are using in making the socks? Just thought I would throw that out to you in thinking of ways to slow down condensation. There was never any way to cut condensation down using a tent at high alititudes on a mt. trek other than to keep a small lantern lit or using a uco candle burning all nite long and you still had a small amount of moisture here and there in a tent.

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    Canvas Sock

    MacEntyre's winter canvas sock weighs 34.7 oz plus condensation rates change as you go from 20 above to 20 below.

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    My DIY canvas sock is probably around 6 pounds as well. I haven't weighed it, but Menards lists the shipping weight as 6.2 pounds. I just couldn't part with the money for the MacEntyre sock. I know it's a way lighter, higher quality piece of gear, but if I'm going to spend this kind of cash it will be on Summer gear that I have to carry on my back. I pull my Winter gear in a sled right now. I really do like the idea of a hybrid sock, though. That might be my next project.
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