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    Thanks Brad and Ipranal for your input. I'll keep stuffing

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    Been looking for a spare bag or DIY down TQ, this one should do! A lot of info in this thread, Thanks all!

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    Now a special offer get a self inflating pad for the same $69.

    http://www.walmart.com/ip/Ozark-Trai.../24857581:lol:

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    Duck Down.

    Nothing really wrong with that, as long as the feather count is low.

    Someone said expect no more than 500 FP. YMMV.
    This place you say your lookin' for
    It might have washed out with the rain
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    Might not be the same

    Top that rise and face the pain

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    Not sure why someone would suggest 500 fp. Sounds like they took it out of the stuff sack straight from the shelf, saw that it was flat as a pancake and assumed it must be low quality down. Some of these have been sitting compressed for quite a while, they need to be re-lofted.

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    Well the their website lists a 20 degree down bag for around 80.00 dollars.

    It's specs state. Features:High loft premium 550+ fill power natural down insulation. Perhaps they use superior down for the 30 degree bag.

    It's not the same Ozark Trails brand, but being WW you can count on the import manufacturing to be nearly the same. Someone should take a look at the 20 degree bag. It might be a better value, for DIY harvesting. Kind of all depends.
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    This place you say your lookin' for
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    Got this bag for a recent trip. I usually run warm.

    Down to 40 the bag was fine with just my thermals on.

    Below 40, watch out, the gaps where it lacks filling give cold spots and I took it below 40 by adding layers but maybe 30-35 at best with lots of layering and 0 wind.

    my .02

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolloff View Post
    Well the their website lists a 20 degree down bag for around 80.00 dollars.

    It's specs state. Features:High loft premium 550+ fill power natural down insulation. Perhaps they use superior down for the 30 degree bag.

    It's not the same Ozark Trails brand, but being WW you can count on the import manufacturing to be nearly the same. Someone should take a look at the 20 degree bag. It might be a better value, for DIY harvesting. Kind of all depends.
    Normally I would agree with you about WW, however it appears that downright bag (the 20 degree one) isn't something they normally sell, it's a 3rd party selling it through their site. Also, if you look it up, that bag weighs 3 pounds . The ozark is around half that. Assuming they are equally rated as optimistically, the 32* bag would have to be higher fill, I would guesstimate at least 650-700. It feels easily on par with my 700fp down sweater, and I couldnt see any feathers in it when I opened up the baffles. I'm sure they're there, but there aren't many.

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    3 lbs of heavy down?

    I'll stand. No more cards please.
    This place you say your lookin' for
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    Top that rise and face the pain

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    FINALLY made it out on a trip to the porkies with the modified bag / CCF combo. First night was about 45 and I did get a little chilly around dawn, but mostly because I had my tarp (macat standard) pitched pretty high and didn't offer much wind protection. I was set up into the edge of a bluff above a creek thinking it would keep me out of the wind... which it did, until it shifted. Just sleeping in base layers and a wool hat. Still got a solid night's sleep and only woke up once or twice.

    Second night I pitched my tarp reallllly tight knowing it was going to be cold (got down to 33). I was warm, but it was kind of a restless night, lots of noisy critters, including something that snapped a pretty decent sized tree in half . Condensation was out of control, I should have used the tie-outs. I had pretty much no side ventilation as the walls of the tarp were touching the bag. Thankfully this bag is actually pretty water resistant, so it still kept me toasty. With an underquilt I wouldn't hesitate to take this thing well into the 20's.

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