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    Quote Originally Posted by angrysparrow View Post
    They're similar in that they are symmetric hammocks of the end-gathered variety. But, that's about it.

    The ENO has a sewn end channel instead of whipping, an attached stuff sack, and comes in several widths. The Speer is actually a whipped end hammock, a detachable bugnet, and the fabric is quite different.
    AS - Good info on how they are built, but what does whipped vs. end channel mean to the user. Does it change the comfort, feel, sag...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knotty View Post
    AS - Good info on how they are built, but what does whipped vs. end channel mean to the user. Does it change the comfort, feel, sag...?
    It doesn't affect the sag, and both offer very similar lays and comfort depending on how they are done.

    What an end channel hammock allows, though, is the hammock fabric to open up wider more quickly when the channel isn't cinched tight. Essentially you could have a very comfortably wide hammock that was shorter in length than a gathered end. The downside is that the fabric sides would be looser and floppier.

    That description is dependent on what whipping method it's being compared to, though.
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    As an inveterate end-channel DIYer, I would second AS's comments and add one upside to the downside -- the loose side makes a nice arm rest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frawg View Post
    the loose side makes a nice arm rest.
    I've found that depending on how much of the weight of my arm I have draped on the side strip of an ENO, I can increase the tension of the side strip to the point where it's taught enough to serve as a headrest as well when I'm on the diagonal.

    I hope that makes sense. I'm not feeling eloquent at all today, and technical writing pays my bills. Caffeine time...
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    Is my math right that the double is half the weight of the Explorer Ultralight? Of course you'd still have to add a bug net but Warbonnet's netting is only 7.4 oz. If I calculated right the double at 22 oz + the WB net would shave 11.6 oz off the EU at 2 lb 9 oz (41 oz).

    That's tempting enough to try it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaxHiker View Post
    Is my math right that the double is half the weight of the Explorer Ultralight? Of course you'd still have to add a bug net but Warbonnet's netting is only 7.4 oz. If I calculated right the double at 22 oz + the WB net would shave 11.6 oz off the EU at 2 lb 9 oz (41 oz).

    That's tempting enough to try it out.
    Suspension is probably not included in the weight.
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    Good point. So they may be comparable after all. Keep trying to decide if I should try one but I won't have a chance to get out with new gear before my next hike. Of course I guess I can always try it in the backyard.

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