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    An integrated 'tarp' could save a LOT of weight

    Well a LOT is relative here. My tarp weighs 330g...

    But today I was thinking do I even need a tarp at ALL?

    Let's assume it's POORING down rain. I would clearly need some type of rain shelter.

    But why not just have the entire hammock a shelter without an eternal tarp. Once you zip up you're completely in a rain shelter if the tarp were physically integrated into the hammock.

    The one issue I can think of is if you have to leave your hammock in the rain. In that situation the rain would come into your hammock as soon as you unzip.

    That's no fun.

    So maybe more of a half tarp so that the entrance was protected from rain without the excess material.

    ... and I'm an ultralight backpacker. So yes I'm obsessing about weight here but that's what we do

    Having a 12lb pack (with food) is nice I wanna be sub 10 though.

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    That sounds like an awesome idea. You better get a patent!
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    Quote Originally Posted by burtonator View Post
    Well a LOT is relative here. My tarp weighs 330g...

    But today I was thinking do I even need a tarp at ALL?

    Let's assume it's POORING down rain. I would clearly need some type of rain shelter.

    But why not just have the entire hammock a shelter without an eternal tarp. Once you zip up you're completely in a rain shelter if the tarp were physically integrated into the hammock.

    The one issue I can think of is if you have to leave your hammock in the rain. In that situation the rain would come into your hammock as soon as you unzip.

    That's no fun.

    So maybe more of a half tarp so that the entrance was protected from rain without the excess material.

    ... and I'm an ultralight backpacker. So yes I'm obsessing about weight here but that's what we do

    Having a 12lb pack (with food) is nice I wanna be sub 10 though.
    I'm thinking this would cause a lot of condensation issues, think about how a single wall tent reacts when a person is zipped up inside and their breath has nowhere to go. You could always make it in a way that there is a bugnet with a gap in between it and the tarp layer, but that mostly negates the purpose and weight savings of an integrated tarp.

    Now while I try to be as lightweight as possible I am in no way a gram weenie so take this as you will, but I think in a prolonged rain situation you will end up wishing you had carried the extra 2 lbs so you have some living space and aren't cooped up inside your hammock the whole time. That's how I would feel anyways. Ymmv

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    I like the idea of the Irish Man, integrated bug net, but small, with flaps over it to keep out rain. If this makes any sense...
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    MedicineMan here on the forums has something like this.
    Check out the following vid, around the 2:20 mark.


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    Re: An integrated 'tarp' could save a LOT of weight

    I believe the Eureka Chrysalis has something similar...think water proof/resistant over cover with bug net windows to allow condensation to escape & awnings to keep rain away from bug net window.

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    Nice but what do you do when you have to pack it away after a big rain?
    A tarp you can pack separately or leave in netted snakeskins on the outside of the pack.

    Seems like it would be an issue getting the entire hammock soaked when packed away.

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    Re: An integrated 'tarp' could save a LOT of weight

    At least on the Chrysalis the tarp portion is removable...

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    Methinks you would be better off putting your money in a Cuben tarp. Think about eating, setting up, or taking down in the rain.
    YMMV

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    What about something like a hammock with a ripstop bottom, silnylon on one side coming up to the ridgeline, and then bugnet on the other side. The sil from the one side would then continue over the bugnet on the other side, giving you something like a half attached tarp. That way you could still have a small tarp to pull out like a porch, or you could throw it back over the sil side for calm weather. Not sure if that makes sense.
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