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    Question Keeping warm in a HH Scout

    Greetings. I recently ordered a HH Explorer Deluxe and SuperShelter. Because of the deal Hennessy was offering I also received two Scout hammocks from them.

    Here's the question...I have the SS for warmth but what cheapie solutions are there for my daughter who'll be using the Scout on a 1 or 2 night backpacking trip with me? Timing is late spring in NJ or PA.

    Also plan to do some local stealth camping in April with a friend who's short enough to fit in the Scout. Temps could be as low as 40 at night.
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    The cheapest way to go that is still effective would be a nice wide closed cell foam pad to sleep on top of inside the hammock. It'll take some wiggling to get it positioned right, but with a little bit of practice it's a totally workable solution. I've heard that they sell them very cheap at Walmart.

    That and a sleeping bag, of course.

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    OK then...off to Wally World.

    I'd imagine the CCF pad doesn't compress down to well, but I'm sure we'll find a way to carry it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonM View Post
    OK then...off to Wally World.

    I'd imagine the CCF pad doesn't compress down to well, but I'm sure we'll find a way to carry it.
    I use a Wally World blue pad inside my HH when it gets extreme (that's 32F and below in Florida). I cut it down to fit from just above my shoulders to just below my butt. If you position it inside the hammock first it's a lot easier to get on right---it's lots easier than squirming into sleeping bag in the hammock.

    You can either roll it as tight as you can and cinch it with some cord or whatever, and carry it outside like we used to carry bed rolls. I make two cuts most of the way through mine on opposite sides, about 1/3 of the way from each end. I reinforce the cuts with duct tape. Now it's a nice Z pad which can slide right in my pack. Placed against my bag it makes a good frame sheet for the pack, so I pull the otherwise useless metal stays out.

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    Nothing is simple. Found two different blue pads at Walmart. One is flat on both sides, the other is a CCF egg crate pad. Which is the one you all are using?

    Based on what Half Step describes, I'm going to guess it's the first one. Did I guess right?

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    We have used several combinations of pads in our two Scouts, one for my fussy, cold sleeping 11 year old and one for my warm sleeping 9 year old.

    The bottom entry proved very challenging getting the kids situated on a single gossamer gear pad:

    http://www.gossamergear.com/cgi-bin/...thinlight.html

    Then we tried two sandwiched together in a "pad pocket" like this from Sgt. Rock:

    http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/s...?t=1905&page=5

    We also tried it with an REI brand thermarest style pad in the pocket.

    The kids were never really comfortable in any of these setups.

    We finally settled on an older Mountain Hardware 3/4" "camp pad" - thicker foam inside a nylon shell. The pad is narrower than we had cut the gossamer gear pad, and proved more comfortable.

    This was made easier by adding 2Q and ZQ's zipper mod #2 with which we can zip the bug netting back. This makes loading and accessing the hammock much easier for both the kids and myself while supporting them.

    THE BEST insulation, however, was the combination of my KAQ with a space blanket between the bottom of the hammock and the KAQ. While I had to make due with my SS, OCF pad and space blanket, the boys slept warm and snug on mulltiple occasions. And, the setup was very easy.

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    I use the egg crate one works great and is 24" or 25" inches wide. I used 2 when it got down to 24 degrees because I dont have an underquilt yet.

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    Lots of cool ideas. But if I limit myself to the simple WM blue pad, is it the egg crate one that Golfer is using that's most widely accepted?

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    I think the flat surface ones do a better job of insulating, but the egg crates provide more comfort and contour to your body a bit better. Also wider. Hard to say if there is a 'better' one. It's going to vary quite a bit I suspect.
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    I just took a trip and my 10 yo son slept his first night in a hammock. He has a HH Scout & I used a Speer SPE w/ a 48" long x 20" wide Walmart blue 1/2" CCF pad in the center topped by a 1/4" Gossamer gear CCF pad 20 x 36. I put MW 1/2" CCF strips in the wings and hw dis really well and was warm in low 40's. I probably could have skipped the extra layer of 1/4" CCF but did not want him to get cold and have a bad first hang.

    The SPE worked great and I think it helped him stay on the pads and the wings keep the shoulders and sides warm.

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