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    Need help making it down to 25F

    Long story, but I have a last minute trip in weather I have never hung. Forecast puts weather as low as 25F. I basically have 1 or 2 nights to pack for this trip if I am lucky.

    Tarp - OES 4 season (figured pitch it low pull the doors shut, like a tent)
    Hammock - WBBB double 1.0
    Top insulation - Got my choice of Big Agnes bags (only one in family going so I can poach from wife or others). Choices from 15F, 30F, 50F and 65F if I recall.
    Bottom insulation - WB 3 season yeti

    Extra stuff at house I could use:
    - 1 puffer jacket, don't really have time to sew
    - Emergency blanket
    - Sunshield (found one for $3 on clearance at Target)
    - Air core or Insulated air core pads for big agnes bags
    - Yoga mat

    I am a warm sleeper and also give off pretty good humidity. For bags I figured 30F and then 65F, making for a flexible top insulation option. For bottom I just don't know, anything with Big Agnes pad is a sleeping nightmare (comfort + humidity) not to mention they are narrow. Assuming I block all wind could I just get by with extra stuff under my feet (mat + maybe puffer)?

    Thoughts?

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    Not that I know much...

    What if you inserted the summer bag inside the under quilt? Then use the 15* bag as your top quilt. Carry the puffer for around camp and for your feet or pillow whichever you feel most needed.
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    Take the 15, wear a hat, and be prepared to vent.
    This place you say your lookin' for
    It might have washed out with the rain
    Might not be there anymore
    Might not be the same

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mumbles View Post
    Not that I know much...

    What if you inserted the summer bag inside the under quilt? Then use the 15* bag as your top quilt. Carry the puffer for around camp and for your feet or pillow whichever you feel most needed.
    I think that would be asking for air gaps versus the nice tight fit I typically get with the UQ. Although that would still only add insulation on my torso, leaving my feet to freeze.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolloff View Post
    Take the 15, wear a hat, and be prepared to vent.
    The Yeti 3 season is only a 2/3 length UQ. What about keeping my feet warm?

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    Small piece of CCF for the Foot box. Make it tapered and large enough to cover torso and thighs if you are really worried. There are other options, but for cost and weight, it's hard to beat.

    You could do away with the small pad in the foot box and use your pack in its place. It will be mostly empty if you are wearing all your cloths anyway.

    Often times, depending on the pack you have selected, especially if it's one of the lighter weight offerings, part of the internal suspension will include a small foam back pad. Pull it out, make a replacement out of CCF, and there you have a triple duty piece of kit. Pack frame, sit pad, foot pad.

    Many of those packs also suggest or incorporate a torso sized rolled up section of CCF or other pad to form sort of a barrel inside the pack, which you in turn stuff everything down inside. Once again, you're additional insulation can at least do double duty.
    This place you say your lookin' for
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    15* bag. Yeti under. Tarp closed up.
    Add the reflector into the hammock's sleeve.
    Wear your fleece layers to bed.

    Adjust venting as needed.

    Better too warm and vent than cold and no options.

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    Need help making it down to 25F

    Quote Originally Posted by gargoyle View Post
    15* bag. Yeti under. Tarp closed up.
    Add the reflector into the hammock's sleeve.
    Wear your fleece layers to bed.

    Adjust venting as needed.

    Better too warm and vent than cold and no options.
    That's what I would choose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gargoyle View Post
    15* bag. Yeti under. Tarp closed up.
    Add the reflector into the hammock's sleeve.
    Wear your fleece layers to bed.

    Adjust venting as needed.

    Better too warm and vent than cold and no options.

    Would you go full length on the reflector or just legs? Full length seems like a recipe for sweat city. Remember the Big Agnes bags don't have any insulation underneath so I would only have a thin layer of hammock between me and the non-breathing reflector.

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    If your wearing a fleece layer the sweat isn't as bad.
    Full length.
    We are all different. And sleep under different conditions. HYOH.
    Adjust as needed.

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