# Thread: Tarp carabiner non load bearing concern:p

1. ## Really new here

What does CRL stand for???

Thanks

Rich

2. Originally Posted by Viper
Hey guys it's viper!

I almost have my whole hammock rig completely finished!

So I am using a contentious ridge line with my tarp now and I plan on attaching the tarp to the CRL buy clipping on the RL tie out to the CRL onto a prussic knot. On both ends of the tarp (using these type of carabeaners that lare a screw lock) I got them for a couple dollars at Walmart and they are non weight bearing ones but are aluminum so my questin is would these be strong enough to attach my tarp to my CRL on a prussic? Or do you think they would break?

I have always been sort of confused on how strong my tarp needs to be able to stand against on wind and rain snow that stuff.

Just I don't want to be in a storm and the carabeaner that's copied to the CRL prussic knot to break and leaving me and all of my gear soaked.

(I like these kind of carabeaners because theirs nothing sharp on them that could mess up my tarp.
Thanks for all the help guys!

I sell climbing gear, most of the time load bearing biners are for climbing and those biners are rated in kN which is a unit used to measure force generated by a given weight in motion.
kN is over kill for hammock use many of the biners used among HF users always recommend the nano 23 which is 20 kilonewtons that will hold
4,496.17886 pounds force (I converted it with a calculator) so they will hold plenty and you should also know you don't always need that much strength, perhaps for the hammock but you can go lighter for the tarp.

3. Rich:
CRL=Continuous Ridge Line (I think.... )

Two ways to support the ridgeline of a tarp:
1) Tie a line to each end of the tarp and connect the lines to trees
2) Tie a continuous line between the trees, and then connect the tarp to that line - either draping the tarp over the CRL or hanging it under the CRL

There are a couple of 'Glossary' threads here (use the Search) but I didn't find CRL when I had a quick look.

4. Originally Posted by Pacific Atoll
What does CRL stand for???

Thanks

Rich
Continuous Ridge Line

5. Originally Posted by VictoriaGuy
Yup.
What's the max tree-to-tree distance (to large diameter trees) that your hammock suspension will allow? The tarp suspension has to be (at least) long enough for that distance.

I always carry some extra line anyway, and Amsteel/Zing-It weigh practically nothing.
I'm not exactly sure on that I have probably around 9 or 8 and a half foot hammock length(dew to the structural ridge line keeping it from stretching out the full distance)
And I have two 15foot webbing straps for suspenssion. So say each tree takes 5 feet of webbing to go around leaving me with 10 feet on each end =20feet + around 8-9feet of hammock length. So lets say 22-29 over all length I would say?

6. Originally Posted by Viper
I'm not exactly sure on that I have probably around 9 or 8 and a half foot hammock length(dew to the structural ridge line keeping it from stretching out the full distance)
And I have two 15foot webbing straps for suspenssion. So say each tree takes 5 feet of webbing to go around leaving me with 10 feet on each end =20feet + around 8-9feet of hammock length. So lets say 22-29 over all length I would say?
Well...remember that the CRL has to go 'round the trees, too. So, it needs to be the same length as your suspension plus your hammock at first glance (39 feet).

On second glance, though, how often are you going to hang from trees twenty-nine feet apart? Personally, I prefer a thirteen to nineteen foot distance between my trees (my hiking poles held at arms' length plus a foot or three). So, my tarp CRL needs to be in the twenty-three to twenty-nine foot range.

I've got a thirty-foot CRL right now, and it's often overkill. I usually wind up with three to five feet of extra cord dangling after tying.

So, what I think is a thirty foot one will do you just fine. Hope it helps!

7. yes a 30' length is very commonly used.

For the new guy... Acronyms

8. Originally Posted by fallkniven
For the new guy... Acronyms
Thanks for that link, but ....
CRL doesn't seem to be on the list
(RL also...)

9. Originally Posted by VictoriaGuy
Thanks for that link, but ....
CRL doesn't seem to be on the list
(RL also...)

CRL means a continuos ridge line meaning one line of rope that runs the howl length of the tarp.

RL is ridge line normally meaning two seprete lines one toes off on the end of your tarp directly to the tree and so that on both sides this method their is no line running under or over your tarp the lines just tie out to the pull out on the RL of your tarp.

10. I found some smaller carabeaners that ares still aluminum but were attatched to para cord for my whole tarp set up needing three cost me about 10\$ but came with para cord also. But these ones weigh 2oz instead of 3. Very small savings but if you need to have them anyways may as well get ones with less weight IMO.

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