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    Question Pad and uq

    Is it overkill to use a pad with an underquilt?, does one cancel out the other?
    I have a dl with an opening for a pad and i am about to go on my first winter hang, i have a nice pad with reflectex on one side but i also have an awesome underquilt ratd for minus 12 degrees, i dont want to take any chances and wake up cold..
    Do i use both? And yes, i also have a nice tq as well with a diy fleece lining with footbox and plenty of sleeping bags as backup, my concern is my backside

    Any opinions ??

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    On a recent hike in SW VA (Dec 28-30) I recently used an old 20 degree Speer PeaPod, HG 20 degree UQ and threw in my cut down, 6 Section Z-rest sit pad for grins. It got down to about 19 degrees and I wound up being too hot and had to vent the PeaPod. My rear end never even thought about being cold, so I think the pad is a good "hedge" bet, especially if it can pull double duty as a sit pad. I used to go down to the low 40's with reflextix only back in the days before commercially available UQ's. Short Pads work just fine!
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    I always bring a pad (cut down thin windshield reflector). I sit on it at camp, stand on it at the hammock and tuck it under my rear if needed. for some reason my lower back will always be cold no matter what I use. I think this is one of those items, thats better to bring and not use than want and not have.
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    Pad, to me, equals condensation. When I was a pad user, I had no alternative (no UQ). Now that I have one (or two) UQ, I haven't used a pad since. I've experimented with a small pad in the footbox but didn't notice any difference.

    The whole point of an underquilt, for me, was to abandon the pad. I haven't had cold butt syndrome down to 3 degrees F, so I don't see the need for sticking a pad under my butt.

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    Zilla, I'll be sleeping outside tonight not far from you.
    Temps are already down to 8 degrees with a 5-10 mph breeze.

    Underquilt only. Happen to be stacking a pair of AHE KAQ's, New River and Jarbidge.

    I expect it to be just about 0 when I turn in tonight.

    Those first few seconds in the hammock are COLD, but then, and this is the point, within seconds I will feel the warmth of the synthetic insulation. The body heat transferring to the insulation, warming up the dead air space, that's what it's all about. The same goes for my down topquilt, seconds after pulling it over me, instant warmth.

    Now, toss a pad into the equation, the heat has to travel through the pad to the underquilt and heat up the dead air space. Sure the pad will warm up and offer insulating properties but the underquilt will be underperforming.

    I sleep outside everyday, and my 2 cents is, underquilt only. If you want to use a small pad under your feet, go for it. But if your underquilt is rated for the predicted temps, don't bother with a full length pad. As always, hyoh and best of luck.
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    I recommend UQ only. Especially if it is rated at -12.
    If it eases your mind to carry the pad then do so and have it on stand-by. Trust the UQ. Hope you have worked on getting it dailed in.
    Carry forth and have fun.
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