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    Whats your opinion?

    Hey everyone, I'm Dakota and I'm a hangoholic
    Okay I'm new and after taking in SOME of the mass of information here and revising some of my new hammock plans. I wanted your opinions.
    I am planning on changing the ENO suspension system. I got it as a gift, maybe I can sell the slap straps. Any way, my plans are to remove the stock cord through the end channels and replace it with dog bones or continuous loops. I also want to make 1/8th Amsteel whoopie slings with whoopie hooks and use tree huggers with Dutch strap buckles at the tree. I also want to do an adjustable ridgeline out of amsteel my current one is 550 cord, but I'n not sure how I'm going to connect it to dog bones or continuous loops. On the subject of dog bones and continuous loops which is stronger, which is lighter? Would it be advantageous for me to whip the ends of the hammock (believe so)?

    Thats a lot..
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    1. Welcome to the site from another GA hanger. The current IS mighty fast if you blindly step in.

    2. I haven't converted any hammocks' suspension, but I am sure someone will speak up shortly. For my DIY hammocks, I whipped the ends and then lark headed my suspension on to that.

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    Continuous loops through the channel will be shorter; dogbones will be longer, and you don't want longer if you're using Dutch whoopie hooks (otherwise your whoopie hooks could end up outside the tarp, when you want your drip point under the tarp). I start with 27.5" of Amsteel for my continuous loops - and I always use locking stitches.

    With the ENO, the length of the continuous loop/dogbone may be irrelevant since it's a short hammock.

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    Welcome to HF from Athens! What SilvrSurfr said will work well for the ENO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by STinGa View Post
    1. Welcome to the site from another GA hanger. The current IS mighty fast if you blindly step in.
    STinGa
    I agree.

    Thanks STinGa and 2ply and thanks SilvrSurfr for the advice. SilvrSurfr- You just reminded me I need to keep my drip point fairly close to my hammock. to be under the tarp. I got ahead of my self, (to many irons in the fire), I haven't ordered the material for my tarp yet. Any ideas about the strength of continuous loops compared to dog bones? I occasionally find myself hanging high, but would never chance that with ENO straps.
    STinGa- Thanks I will probably end up whipping the ends and using a larks head at the hammock.

    Edit: Dutch Biners not Whoopie Hooks, I slipped in my excitement and forgot that whoopie hooks and 1/8" Amsteel don't really work together.
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    I wouldn't think there's a difference in strength between continuous loops and dogbones, though one could argue that the dogbone has two splices (i.e., two single points of failure), whereas the continuous loop has only one single point of failure (SPOF).

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    If you are going to 1/8 amsteel for the whoopee's use it for the loops. It will be overkill for strength but give you more bearing surface for the cloth. You weight penalty will be a few grams. I am not sure the Dutch Hooks will work with 1/8 as they are designed around 7/64. Depends on how much slop he designed in. If you want Dutch bling (who doesn't?) take a look at the strap suspension setup as well as whoopee's. Weight penalty is not much but setup is easier and shorter. ;-)
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    Nothermark is correct. Stick to 7/64 Amsteel for Whoopie Hooks. 1/8th will be tight.
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    I DIYed my whoopies, C-loops and adjustable ridgeline, it was fun and I have 8' whoopies. I did a 20' tieout for our small mutt with a locked loop at each end. It has been outside for a year now, wrapped around trees drugged along the deck post and ran out to a jolting stop chasing rabbits and balls.

    That said unless you are on a tight budget I would just get a whole setup from Dutch. It is a good price for huggers,clips, biners-toggle-or-buckles, whoopies (color coded for head and foot ends), hooks, and loops. The best part one stop shopping and high quality. I've had mine dream set built many times just don't have the cash. Guess my second hammock only gets to hang out in the gear bin.
    Trying out some buckles this weekend along with my Xmas Dutch clips.

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    Thanks all. I'll Probably stick to 7/64. I'm kinda concerned about weight (I'm 180 and my girlfriend weighs 160 and randomly climbs in), but most of my gear isn't or won't be rated above 1000lbs so it would be pointless to go up to 2500lbs with 1/8th amsteel. I'll save weight and hassle.

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