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    MississipVol's Avatar
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    Warbonnet Question from a Newbie

    I am getting ready to purchase my first hammock! I would like to get one that is lighter weight if possible because I plan to use it pretty often for short backpacking trips. (I am trying to go lightweight on all my gear if possible.) I have decided on the Blackbird DL but I don't know which fabric I should get.

    I am currently 5'10" and 268 lbs BUT I have been working to lose weight and I hope/plan to be down to 230-240 by this May when I do a multi-day hike along the AT.

    SO do I:


    A. Save the ounces long term since I am using it backpacking and get the 1.1 DL, sacrificing SOME comfort now knowing it will probably feel better once I lose some weight?

    B. Go ahead and get the 1.7 DL for comfort (with my weight range) and take the 7 ounce penalty (even though I may wish I could have saved the weight later)?

    I am itching to pull the trigger soon so I would love any feedback to make this IMPORTANT decision!! Thanks!

    P.S. - Below is what he says on his site but I was wanting to know from experienced users as well. (Yes, I know everyone's comfort level is a little different but would appreciate the thoughts.):

    225-250 LBS:
    Double 1.1, double 1.7 blackbirds and Double layer RidgeRunner. Choose double 1.1 Blackbird if looking to go lightweight. In this weight range the double 1.7 Blackbird will provide you slightly more support, choose double 1.7 Blackbird for maximum comfort and double 1.1 Blackbird if you're weight conscious at all. Double layer RidgeRunner is also appropriate.

    250-275 LBS:
    Double 1.1, double 1.7 Blackbirds You can certainly still go double 1.1 if you're looking to cut packweight, but in this weight range the double 1.7 Blackbird starts to be noticeably flatter and more supportive. Double 1.1 is recommended for those looking to go lightweight, double 1.7 recommended for those looking for maximum comfort. Double layer RidgeRunner is only rated to 250 LBS.

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    So what is the difference, about 6 or 7 oz? I would try to find out which one is most likely to be most comfortable at my most likely body weight, or even the low end of likely weight, and I'd go by that before getting too concerned about ~ 6 oz. Or like I ask myself sometimes: could I just loose 1 pound body weight, and then I could go with the heavier hammock and still be 1/2 lb ahead! Sadly, the answer is more likely I will just gain 1 more lb rather than loose it!
    For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us....that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now.
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    At risk of sounding glib, I'd take the hammock that fits your current weight range (1.7 DL), then if you reach your desired weight and don't want the extra 7 oz, either lose another half a pound, cut 7 oz elsewhere, or celebrate by buying the 1.1, and resell the 1.7.

    As an experienced cyclist, I used to really be conscious of purchasing lightweight gear, so as to have less to truck up hills, etc. I eventually became much less gear-weight conscious, and much more body-weight and conditioning conscious. (Also much cheaper and healthier to lose the body weight and have more comfortable gear.) ex:I went with a steel frame bike over aluminum -heavier, but much more comfortable with less vibration. I rode more often and longer, and more than made up for the extra weight in personal body weight loss.

    Gear weight is generally over-rated in my experience, unless you are talking extreme weight or distance. I often pack my heavier gear for short trips, because I like the gear and the extra workout/training.

    By the way, check out video: Forks Over Knives on Netflix. A life changer. Really.

    Good luck.
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    I'm 270lbs and I use a SL 1.7. For your projected weight I think a DL 1.1 would be comfortable for you.
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    JumpinJackJim:

    You are exactly right! 7 ounces seems silly to fuss about when I have a lot of body weight I could lose. I used to be really in shape and did a lot of endurance events but a couple injuries and a very stressful job caused me to pile it on over time. I am minus the stressful job now and looking to get back in shape - thus the backpacking idea (something both me and my 10-yr-old love and will enjoy together).

    So I know it is only 7 ounces but my dilemma is that I am trying to go as lightweight as possible (thinking longterm) so I was wondering if there is really a noticeable difference between the two from 230-270 lbs.

    If so, I will do just as you said and stick with the 1.7 DL. I want to be comfortable for sure! But If most people that have used both think it is negligible then I would like to go with the lighter version since I plan to be at a lower weight the more I use the WBBB.

    I have a great tent and could stick with it if I were just going to car camp but the hammock is something to get me out on the trail a good bit more and actually enjoy getting in shape, giving me a few goals in the process (like the AT hike).

    So anyone else out there have experience with both? Thanks in advance!!

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    I have a DL blackbird and DL blackbird XLC. I went DL for flexibility of pad or under quilt use. That amount of weight difference is not a concern from my use perspective. Best of luck.
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    I agree with mumbles. Dl1.7 will always be comfortable regardless of weight. I think camp comfort outweighs hiking comfort.Besides if you havent noticed our packweights are still lighter than a tent packweight even with some of the heavier more durable types of camping hammocks available. Get the 1.7dl and sleep in sweet comfort my friend.
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    I'm just recently a hammock convert, but even when using a tent previously I've always adhered to the fact that nothing is better for the body and mind after a long day's hike then a good night's sleep.

    My philosophy has always been to seek out the lightest gear that provides me the greatest comfort. By definition, this will rule out most ultra-light gear, but going UL is a philosophy of its own and often sacrifices many things, comfort being only one. Even then, successful UL hikers usually get their weight down over time, by consistently readjusting their weight levels through experience.

    I would suggest that you don't look too much towards what you think you may want or need in the future, but purchase what's best for you now. You'll wind up enjoying yourself more and gain the experience you'll need to make those weight adjustments later.

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    Buy the hammock that you need now and start enjoying it.

    When you loose the weight go for the lighter version.

    David

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    Great thoughts.

    Thanks everyone.

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