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    Yeah - the buckles are only hard to undo if you try to remove them right after you tighten them. After you get in for a few minutes, it's loose enough to undo pretty easily.

    I haven't had any slippage with the rings, and I don't have to worry at all about not being able to loosen it if I want to change sites or something.

    Six of one, half-dozen of the other...I'd say they both work fine.
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    Probably worth testing...the buckles are pretty cheap and you could use the same webbing you use with the rings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackbishop351 View Post
    After reading the issues and solutions that have been reported with the ring system, I think I'll stick with my buckles. They're a complete no-brainer. No slippage, no worrying about attachment, no alignment concerns. I'll probably give the rings another try, but only in the interest of science
    After my first round of troubles with the rings, I have not had anymore problems. I'd reccomend them to you, if only to serve the interest of science.

    (first round of trouble being some slippage, due to aforementioned poor alignment.)
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    i've spent a little time w/ both the cc buckles & the ring buckles now & my favor goes w/ the ring buckles.
    not that the cc buckles are bad, but the two main concerns i have w/ them are...
    1) they are more difficult to loosen. this becomes even worse when you use them at home & the same section of webbing is held in the buckles night after night. it doesn't take long until the stiff webbing becomes soft from stress & it's harder to push soft webbing back through the cc buckle than stiff webbing.
    of course that's going to vary from one type webbing to another, and on the trail you're not as likely to end up w/ the buckle in the same place on the webbing as often.
    2) i believe there is obviously a greater force in a small, sharp bend of the webbing w/ the cc buckles than the ring buckles.
    before i got more of the better grade 1" webbing from speer, i was using the 1" wal-mart polyester webbing which tends to be of less dependable quality, & it actually tore at the cc buckle.
    so these two things cause me to think that in the long run, the ring buckles are going to be not only easier to use, but easier on the webbing. ...tim
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    Has anyone ever tried sinching the hammock tight using the ring buckle and then tying a slip knot behind the rings to keep the webbing from slipping?
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    I almost did that...but then I figured that if I had a slip knot right against the rings, and the webbing slipped, it would bind the knot into the rings.

    So now I just roll up the extra webbing and stuff it inside the biner...that keeps everything straight enough. If there isn't enough, you can also put a loose half-hitch up on the webbing...just tight enough to hold it straight. Same thing as the slip knot you're talking about, I guess...just not right against the rings.

    But yeah - it works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by headchange4u View Post
    Has anyone ever tried sinching the hammock tight using the ring buckle and then tying a slip knot behind the rings to keep the webbing from slipping?
    yes. i do that when ever i have slipping for what ever reasons, & it works perfectly.
    no more slipping & release is a simple tug.
    now i usually do it just as a precaution, even if i don't pull the slip knot tight.
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    I've tried the rings and had slipping so I tied a slip knot right above the rings and it held fine. The knot did not slide into the rings for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slowhike View Post
    yes. i do that when ever i have slipping for what ever reasons, & it works perfectly.
    no more slipping & release is a simple tug.
    now i usually do it just as a precaution, even if i don't pull the slip knot tight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slowhike View Post
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