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    Lightest weight UQ (warmth to wt ratio)

    Hi guys!

    Havent been around in forever, but have to get situated for a long hike this summer thru the 100 Mile Wilderness...

    I have a HH Desert Rat that I love (and may be tempted into buying a Blackbird)

    I had a BB out this weekend in N. GA. I dont think the temps were below 55* but I was very cool without any underquilt of any sorts in a 40* bag.

    I have to be warm to sleep comfortably.

    Because there will be no resupply from Katadhin Stream Campground til Monson, I need to keep my weight as low as possible for all that food I wil have to carry!

    What are some suggestions for a very light weight UQ that would be used either with the HH D. Rat or a BB in conjunction with a Montbell UL SS Hugger 15* bag?
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    For summer temps, a 2/3 quilt is the way to go. Check out the Warbonnet Yeti, or PM Pan about the availability of their 2/3 quilt.

    edited to add - Mikeinfhaz is making them now too, I think....
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    Totally agree that a torso, or 2/3, length uq is going to be the best way to go. The Yetis (3-season) are only 12 ounces and he's selling them for $175 right now. Crazy good deal! Should get you down to the low 30s with no worries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by angrysparrow View Post
    For summer temps, a 2/3 quilt is the way to go. Check out the Warbonnet Yeti, or PM Pan about the availability of their 2/3 quilt.
    What does a "typical" 2/3 under quilt weigh?

    I know it will depend on the exact dimensions and the fp of the down used, but maybe there's an "average" weight.

    Anybody know?

    Also, what are the "average" dimensions of a 2/3 under quilt.

    Checked the Warbonnet site and couldn't find anything on the Yeti.

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    I'm not sure there are enough of them yet to define 'average'. But, best guess - 12-15oz, and 36"W x 40"L (general).

    I edited my original post to include mikeinfhaz as a possible source for ready-made quilts.
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    Cuffs, et al,

    Think about the issue in its totality a 2/3 Uq at 12-15 oz plus 2-3 oz for the pad and you still have to manage the pad in the hammock is not any lighter, and probably more, than 15 oz total for a summer, read 40*, full UQ and you don't have to mess with any pad in the hammock.... As an additional plus any pad you chose to carry for a general purpose sit pad can be much smaller , say 10x12 vs the Half pad typically needed with 2/3 size UQ. thus the full summer UQ is less total weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter_pan View Post
    Think about the issue in its totality a 2/3 Uq at 12-15 oz plus 2-3 oz for the pad and you still have to manage the pad in the hammock is not any lighter, and probably more, than 15 oz total for a summer, read 40*
    I agree that the pad adds weight, and that it should be factored in. But, in summer temps I don't need any pad under my legs with a 2/3 quilt. YMMV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by angrysparrow View Post
    For summer temps, a 2/3 quilt is the way to go. Check out the Warbonnet Yeti, or PM Pan about the availability of their 2/3 quilt.

    edited to add - Mikeinfhaz is making them now too, I think....
    Sadly, they are not available any more, at least for now, but you know what I think is great for summer? The WB torso Climashield with one layer of CS. This weighs about 9 oz, and is plenty warm in the 60s, and might be OK a bit into the 50s, but I have not been able to test it yet at below low 60s. And most of the time, do you even need a pad or quilt under your legs in the summer?

    But it is a moot point, as you can't buy one. Another thing I need to check out some time is the SS UC by itself. I think it might get you at least a few degrees, but I have no idea how many, and I don't know how much of a problem condensation would be in fairly warm weather. But, it won't weigh much, about 7 1/2 oz. For that matter, the UC AND pad only weigh 13 oz.
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    the pad/weight argument is valid if you only use that pad in the hammock. For those of us backpackers that use a pad for under our legs, under our butts, and as a pack frame, its worth the weight. anything is worth the weight if it serves 2-3x duty.

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    this doesn't help Cuffs much, but the last DIY UQ I made has 2" of loft, differential cut, is 48" long, 40" wide at the shoulders and 32" wide at the thighs. Weighs 8.5 oz, of which 4+ oz is down (900 fill). I can get away with smaller quilt dimensions because this is going on a bridge hammock.

    Took me to low 40s F easily last month all by itself. With the addition of a 3/8" pad also at my torso and my pack (with rain gear inside) under my legs, I went to 34 F.

    I agree with mikeinfhaz...that pad is my sit-upon and what is between my back and everything else in my pack. Triple use.

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