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    Senior Member shrek's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramblinrev View Post
    For me personally all the rhythm and consistency talk is secondary to the fact that the pole help keep me from falling down.
    Amen. They have saved my skin more than once.
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    Hiking poles

    I've used a variety of hiking poles over the years, getting progressively lighter with time and money!

    My current poles are the Gossamer Gear Lightrek 4 poles at just a shade over 4 oz per pole, but as strong as the beefier poles (e.g. Leki, Komperdell or Black Diamond). The GG poles are the best pole ever, IMO. Since I use the poles for rhythm and stability...and for tent/tarp/shelter poles, lighter is better. YMMV but I think one of the "workout" benefits is that of more actively using your arms/shoulders to assume some of the weightbearing load as you climb/descend. Just hiking along level trails I will often just carry the poles in one hand since they don't offer a lot of benefit for that specific condition. Definitely a help on logs/rocks when stream crossing or navigating wet trail conditions.

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    Slipped buntline hitch!

    Quote Originally Posted by Coldspring View Post
    I mentioned that my Blackbird weights 31 oz over on the Ultralight site and they attacked me. If you want to go ultralight, you need a cuben fiber poncho tarp, GG Thinlite torso pad, and a headnet for the buggies. Sub 10 oz for entire shelter.
    Some the Ultralighters loose sight of comfort and safety. Too obsessed with weight. Sure hope the person who criticized you was lean and trim. Not a gear freak that could drop a few kg from his load from the skin under. A real restful sleep promoting recovery makes up for a chunk of the additional weight of a hammock vs. minimalist gear.

    After testing out a few methods reverted to simple. The slipped buntline hitch. Also the lightest of the systems tried. No parts to loose or break. If line snaps tie it back together.
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    WB double mods for lightening

    Can the double versions be made lighter by not making them with a whole layer underneath but doing a minimal number of 1.1 "straps" necessary to hold pads underneath? Any advantage to this if it is possible? Thinking about the WB 1.1 double but would like to keep it lighter. Thanks!

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    If you are using a double for the support of a pad as bottom insulation I think you would find the straps idea to introduce too much play into the system. The full double layer allws the pad to maintain full contact and stay in place properly. In terms of a double layer to restrict stretch or support more weight... I see no such use for straps as you mention. Interesting idea... but I'm not sure what any benefit would be. Perhaps going with a single layer ofr the sake of weight is the way to go.
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    Ahah! I knew there couldn't be three whole pages about ultralight mods for a BB... so, I could have done a single 1.1 instead of a double, but that's the only way I would have gone lighter and I'm thrilled with my double 1.1! Whoopie sling looks like way too much work for me. Guess I'll never be "ultralight".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Hat View Post
    ...Whoopie sling looks like way too much work for me. Guess I'll never be "ultralight".
    Red Hat, I made a UCR (very similar to making a Whoopie). Surprisingly simple. This video shows it real well: http://www.splicesbynick.com/videos (first posted by SlowBro in the WhoopieSling thread). I practiced for for an hour one night, then, it only took an hour the next night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amac View Post
    Red Hat, I made a UCR (very similar to making a Whoopie). Surprisingly simple. This video shows it real well: http://www.splicesbynick.com/videos (first posted by SlowBro in the WhoopieSling thread). I practiced for for an hour one night, then, it only took an hour the next night.
    I think it was actually first posted a couple of weeks earlier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shug View Post
    Concur .... it is already a lightweight system ..... hammock, integrated net and all. I use cord right now and saved maybe 5-6 ounces.
    ahhhh ... the comfort factor is huge.
    Are you saying it is more comfortable with the cord than webbing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ikemouser View Post
    Are you saying it is more comfortable with the cord than webbing?
    No sir ..... the comfort is the same either way, straps or webbing..... does not alter the hang.
    Just expounding on my over-all hammock comfort groove!
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