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    Quote Originally Posted by angrysparrow View Post
    It sounds like they need a dose of HYOH mentality.
    you said a mouthful there...
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    Brandon, I'm thinking about the ridgeline for a second... given that splices are generally stronger than knots, you could also use a lighter cord for the ridgeline by making it a Whoopie Sling.

    That would also, potentially, let end-users adjust the ridgeline tension for themselves. Not sure whether that's a good thing, but it would be feasible.

    Actually, these ideas are kind of independent. An adjustable ridgeline might be attractive whether or not it reduced weight. Especially when you're dealing with a bunch of obsessive hammock-forums tinkerers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angrysparrow View Post
    It sounds like they need a dose of HYOH mentality.
    LOL. I don't even remember if they attacked me or not. I think they've finally given up on attacking hammocks. I just like to rub it in about how miserable they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrizzlyAdams View Post
    ... Maybe you can hit break-even with the UCR, but I'm not seeing it with the whoopie sling, it just needs more than a yard of extra cord at each end.
    I think your thumbnail analysis was pretty good. My UCR constrictor sections are just under 30", cut length.

    Shooting from the hip here, since I haven't seen a BB up close, I think it would be easy to turn the stock line into a UCR, at the cost of about 3 feet of span on each end. The original stock line+webbing setup wouldn't need to be changed.

    If I were ordering a BB (and I may, once I get the DIY bug out of my system) I'd ask for an extra 3' of line on each end to allow for a UCR mod, but then I'm biased.
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    Quote Originally Posted by angrysparrow View Post
    It sounds like they need a dose of HYOH mentality.
    And maybe the girlie-men there need a barbell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Take-a-knee View Post
    And maybe the girlie-men there need a barbell.
    Oooooooooooooooo!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Take-a-knee View Post
    And maybe the girlie-men there need a barbell.
    LOL...wouldn't want to add too much bulk if you're a serious ultralighter.

    There was a recent discussion about whether trekking poles build upper body muscle. I suggested that on a familiar in-and-out hike, one could get some 2 poundish wrist weights and wear them while hiking. When they got tired, after an hour or so, they could stash the weights and retrieve them on the return trip. There were a few commented about how dangerous this could be to the unconditioned body and it would be best to consult with their physician first before attempting such an endeavor!

    I suppose they are right, but I would tend to think a backpacker is familiar with their bodily abilities and has a little common sense.

    I don't know, maybe it is a stupid idea, but a 4 oz carbon trekking pole sure isn't going to build any muscle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coldspring View Post
    a 4 oz carbon trekking pole sure isn't going to build any muscle.
    I use trekking poles constantly when I am out. I has less to do with upper body strength than it does with rhythm and consistency. There is no doubt in my mind that the trekking poles significant affect the aerobic aspect of the upper body involvement. But aerobics are not the primary strength/mass producers if I understand correctly. For aerobic cardio-vascular benefit I can see the benefit of poles. For muscle mass and strength building I share your view that there are probably more effective ways of accomplsihing that.

    For me personally all the rhythm and consistency talk is secondary to the fact that the pole help keep me from falling down.
    I may be slow... But I sure am gimpy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramblinrev View Post
    For me personally all the rhythm and consistency talk is secondary to the fact that the pole help keep me from falling down.
    Yeah, what he said!

    Besides, it's a good way to prop up one side of the tarp when the weather is good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramblinrev View Post
    I use trekking poles constantly when I am out. I has less to do with upper body strength than it does with rhythm and consistency.
    I never go out w/o my poles. I think they are definitely good for toning, saves the knees and gives me something to do. On a downhill, it's amazing how much balance a 8 oz pole will give you if you hold your arm straight out. I like a good wood hiking stick, myself, as I can twirl it like a baton and thrash things. I rarely dayhike anymore to use a wooden stick though, I like sleeping in my hammock too much.

    I've always wanted to make a pair of weighted poles. Like 3-4 lbs. each. The center of gravity would have to be up near the top and balanced out to the ends of the poles. I'm quite positive you could get a good workout with some of these, if there was such a thing.

    This thread sure has gotten off subject.

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