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    They are a lot. The jackets alone are $170. The bags are not yet being sold, but that should be changed in the next couple weeks. I think they will be $300+. It would be much better to make your own, but good luck finding polarguard delta.

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    You'd be better off making a Ray-Way quilt kit by the time you find all the materials you need separately. That's the route I ended up going. First I bought a Fanatic Fringe quilt, but was very unhappy with the workmanship (no quilting in the quilt!), so I sent it back.
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    i didn't intend to take away from HE's questions/discussions on the quilts he's getting ready to make... just thought the specs chart they gave might be a good reference.
    maybe this cocoon talk could be moved to another thread if needed. mater a fact i'll do that.


    all the cocoon line stuff is insulated w/ delta polarguard.
    no way can i give all the specs, but as a reference for the 3 quilts they are offering now...

    cocoon UL 60 quilt... 11.0 ozs
    $159.99...member
    $189.99...non mem

    cocoon PRO 90 quilt...14ozs
    $179.99...mem
    $219.99...non

    cocoon UL 180... 19.6 ozs
    $199.99...mem
    $239.99...non

    if i had the cash, i'd be going for it.
    BTW... you would recoup more than the $25.00 membership fee w/ one of these purchases.
    but if i remember right, at least part (if not all) of the clothing line will not be shipped until june. but i believe the quilts may be available now???
    they are just getting this line up & running.
    very well thought out stuff.
    don`t leave the CREATOR out of the creation!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkwater View Post
    The last quilt I made was 48" at both ends (3.25" loft). I calculated tapering the last 2' from 48" down to 40" for the footbox. By my calculations I would only save 15.6 grams (.55oz). I am glad I did not go to the trouble. When sinched up for a footbox it is snug around my size 11 feet. The high loft of the quilt takes up any open space around my feet.
    Good point. I will crunch some numbers and see what my saving actually are. I think if I am only saving an oz, than it is probibly not worth it.
    Is that too much to ask? Girls with frikkin' lasers on their heads?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NCPatrick View Post
    You'd be better off making a Ray-Way quilt kit by the time you find all the materials you need separately. That's the route I ended up going. First I bought a Fanatic Fringe quilt, but was very unhappy with the workmanship (no quilting in the quilt!), so I sent it back.
    Are Ray-Way quilts down quilts? My current underquilt is Primaloft, but I was barely able to sew it on my machine. I really needed a walking foot machine. It seams a down quilt is easier to make.
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    Quote Originally Posted by funbun View Post
    Are Ray-Way quilts down quilts?
    no, they use polarguard delta i belive.
    don`t leave the CREATOR out of the creation!

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    They are Polarguard 3D. Ray Jardine does not use Delta. Here's why: http://www.ray-way.com/quilt/delta.shtml

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    Ok, there are some quick and dirty calculations on how much weight the taper will save. Given using starting width of 48", mom90 fabric at 1.05oz per sq yard (as given on thru-hiker), 750 fill down, and the taper length of 3' (approx 1/2 my height or waist level).

    EDIT: Numbers removed due to a miscalulation, corrected in later post.

    Given those savings, this is something I think I want to add to my quilt design.

    EDIT: I forgot to add there will also be a savings from the baffle material. I am using nanoseeum for this, so the saving will only be approx .03 - .08 oz. Sorry the engineer in me can't forget to account this.
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    Ok, there are some quick and dirty calculations on how much weight the taper will save.
    Will you be adding taper to the underquilt also?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hammock engineer View Post
    Ok, there are some quick and dirty calculations on how much weight the taper will save. Given using starting width of 48", mom90 fabric at 1.05oz per sq yard (as given on thru-hiker), 750 fill down, and the taper length of 3' (approx 1/2 my height or waist level).

    for 2" loft with 15% overstuff
    Footbox width 40" savings 2.28oz
    Footbox width 36" savings 3.42oz
    Footbox width 30" savings 5.13oz
    Footbox width 26" savings 6.28oz


    for 3" loft with 15% overstuff
    Footbox width 40" savings 2.72oz
    Footbox width 36" savings 4.08oz
    Footbox width 30" savings 6.13oz
    Footbox width 26" savings 7.49oz

    Given those savings, this is something I think I want to add to my quilt design.

    EDIT: I forgot to add there will also be a savings from the baffle material. I am using nanoseeum for this, so the saving will only be approx .03 - .08 oz. Sorry the engineer in me can't forget to account this.
    I can't seem to make those numbers work in my design?!? What are your specs for your quilt design?

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