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 04-03-2008, 22:42 #1 tight-wad     Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hoover, Al Hammock: DIY Speer style Tarp: Hallelujah Insulation: "Sto" Serape & RRG View my gallery 40 Posts: 534 Images: 40 How much can you compress Climashield, Primaloft? Anybody with a clima or prima quilt that has packed it small? Working on a spreadsheet to compare synthetics with down for a different project. Need somebody with a, say 4' x 6' x 3" quilt, that has compressed it to fit in a stuff/compression sack that is, say 14" tall x 6" in diameter. whatever. Give me some numbers and I'll do the math and post a comparison. For reference, my down quilt is: 48" x 70" x 3" = 10,080 cubic inches when all fluffed up. I can fit it into a stuff sack, with two 3/4" compression straps, and squeeze it down to basketball size (~10" sphere) ~ 524 cu in. This is a 95% reduction in volume. (eyeball estimate on basketball, will get real numbers before posting finals.) Can anyone give me similar numbers for a synthetic quilt? Thanks
 04-03-2008, 23:13 #2 Preacha Man Senior Member     Join Date: May 2007 Location: Northwest, Arkansas Hammock: My DIY 10.5'X5' speer style Tarp: PW 10X12 Cathedral Insulation: PW Comforter Quilt Suspension: 1"poly webbing View my gallery 41 Posts: 718 Images: 41 I have a 42X66X2 (5,544 cu in.) 5oz Climashield XP top quilt. I can compress it into 7.5X7.5X7 (393.75 cu in.) That is a 93% reduction in volume. I ever compress my quilts this much, I always stuff them into the bottom of my pack with everything else on top of them. I was amazed though to see the Climashield XP compress that much. A 2% difference between down and synthetic is really not that bad. Dwight __________________ Psalm 19:1-3 "The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge. There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard."
 04-03-2008, 23:20 #3 slowhike     Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Winston-Salem, NC Hammock: DIY, gathered end , w/ spreader Tarp: DIY w/ pull-outs Insulation: DAM/ HG Incubator Suspension: Webbing & rings View my gallery 319 Posts: 10,718 Images: 319 i can't give you much in the way of numbers but i have a ray way quilt w/ alpine upgrade & it's lost a noticeable amount of loft, & i don't think i went to great efforts to over compress it. don't know what the starting thickness was but it seems to average about 1" of loft now. probably had it a couple years & packed it less than a dozen times for trips, & stored it in a large bag. __________________ don`t leave the CREATOR out of the creation!
 04-04-2008, 07:42 #4 warbonnetguy   Join Date: May 2007 Location: fort collins, co View my gallery 47 Posts: 3,997 Images: 47 hey sh, yoe might have done this already, but have you tried tossing it in the dryer, might bring back some loft.
04-04-2008, 20:19   #5
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 Originally Posted by warbonnetguy hey sh, yoe might have done this already, but have you tried tossing it in the dryer, might bring back some loft.
no, but that was mentioned on an earlier thread... & i forgot to try that.
i'll do it right now.
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04-04-2008, 21:39   #6
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 Originally Posted by Preacha Man I have a 42X66X2 (5,544 cu in.) 5oz Climashield XP top quilt. I can compress it into 7.5X7.5X7 (393.75 cu in.) That is a 93% reduction in volume. I ever compress my quilts this much, I always stuff them into the bottom of my pack with everything else on top of them. I was amazed though to see the Climashield XP compress that much. A 2% difference between down and synthetic is really not that bad. Dwight
I have wondered about the term "5oz climashield xp to quilt". Are you saying that the quilt only weighs 5 ounces and has 2 inches of loft? That seem impossible. I'm assuming the insolation weighs 5 ounces, but even that seem low.
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 04-04-2008, 21:56 #7 Preacha Man Senior Member     Join Date: May 2007 Location: Northwest, Arkansas Hammock: My DIY 10.5'X5' speer style Tarp: PW 10X12 Cathedral Insulation: PW Comforter Quilt Suspension: 1"poly webbing View my gallery 41 Posts: 718 Images: 41 LOL, synthetic insulation is measured by weight, not loft. The climashield weighs 5oz/sq. yard. There are different weights of Climashield as well (5oz, 3.7oz, 3.4oz, 2oz) The 5oz is rated to 20*F, and the 3.7 is rated to 30*F. People often want to compare down and synthetic with loft, but you can't, different synthetics have different insulative properties, that is why they are compared by weights. In the same since though, Climashield is a better insulator than Primaloft, so 5oz Climashield insulates better than 5oz Primaloft. That is why cheap wal-mart bags are big, but do not insulate well, they use cheaper synthetics. Down is completly different, it is still based on weight kind of, such as how many ounces of down, but then you get into the fill power side, where 500fp only insulates 500 cu. in./oz., and 900fp insulates 900 cu. in./oz. My quilt weighs 23oz. including the stuff sack. I hope this helps. Dwight __________________ Psalm 19:1-3 "The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge. There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard."
 04-04-2008, 23:41 #8 slowhike     Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Winston-Salem, NC Hammock: DIY, gathered end , w/ spreader Tarp: DIY w/ pull-outs Insulation: DAM/ HG Incubator Suspension: Webbing & rings View my gallery 319 Posts: 10,718 Images: 319 i ran the ray way through a drying cycle on low heat. it may have made a slight improvement, but not a lot. no where near it's original glory. __________________ don`t leave the CREATOR out of the creation!
04-05-2008, 09:50   #9
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 Originally Posted by slowhike i ran the ray way through a drying cycle on low heat. it may have made a slight improvement, but not a lot. no where near it's original glory.
did you throw a tennis ball in with it?

04-05-2008, 14:49   #10
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 Originally Posted by mataharihiker did you throw a tennis ball in with it?
nope... i'll try it again
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