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 11-08-2012, 02:15 #2 dejoha Senior Member     Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Flagstaff, AZ Hammock: Most Tarp: GoLite Poncho Tarp Insulation: Phoenix, Burrow Suspension: Whoopie Hook View my gallery 201 Posts: 2,250 Images: 201 Great points Catavarie. I agree with you. I have a post on "advanced hammock theory" where I started to play around with this idea of proportions. I believe there is a formula for calculating all the factors involved with the "right" hammock for your height, including the right length, width, and sag. Just going wider causes the hammock sides or gunnels to "canoe," which introduces floppy fabric on the sides because you can't get any more diagonal without going "banana." A deeper sag with a wide hammock helps somewhat, but the right proportion of width to length and the right sag allows the hanger to get in the right diagonal position for maximum "flatness" and comfort. One of these days I'll get in a studio and film this, but it may take a while. It's sort of fascinating in a strange, geeky way. __________________ Author and illustrator: The Ultimate Hang: An Illustrated Guide To Hammock Camping
 11-08-2012, 02:44 #3 SwedeMix Member     Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Sweden Hammock: TW Camo Hornet Super XL Tarp: "DIY" Frankentarp Insulation: Exped DM 7 LW Suspension: Webbing Posts: 78 Catavarie - that was a really great write up, made me smile from ear to ear! This is really interesting, been thinking in these exact terms myself. Maybe time to start experimenting, hmmm.. Dejoha, a video sounds just great - it'll save us mere mortals tons of time and a few messed up hammocks! Love your teaching-skills, keep it up! // SwedeMix __________________ People on this forum are absolutely incredible. I wish we could discover new land and inhabit it all together. :-) - Deadphans
 11-08-2012, 06:07 #5 Pipsissewa Senior Member     Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Yancey Co., NC - Home of Mt. Mitchell Hammock: DIY: the Peace Pipe Tarp: 2011 GG 12x12 Insulation: Flamethrower UQ Suspension: Whoopies & straps View my gallery 7 Posts: 1,713 Images: 7 Those are called Brannock devices. (my head is full of useless information!) My first hammock was a smallish 4.5x9 parachute hammock. That darn thing is STILL the most comfortable hammock I have (out of 5!) I can hang it ANYWHERE, ANY WAY and it's comfortable! So, I think you're on to something there. I don't know if it's the proportion of length to width, or the proportion of length to the height of the user or what, but I agree with your findings, Catavarie. Thanks for the write-up! __________________ "Pips" Mountains have a dreamy way Of folding up a noisy day In quiet covers, cool and gray. ---Leigh Buckner Hanes Surely, God could have made a better way to sleep. Surely, God never did.
 11-08-2012, 06:35 #6 raiffnuke Moderator     Join Date: May 2011 Location: Pittsfield, MA Hammock: WBBB 1.1 DBL, Camo Hideaway, ENO DN Tarp: WB Superfly Insulation: HG Incubator Suspension: Whoopies&DutchGear View my gallery 44 Posts: 5,418 Images: 44 Great write up Catavarie! I have been experimenting with larger hammocks, but I haven't played around with smaller hammocks...I guess it is time to get back to some napping...er I mean hammock testing! __________________ H.Y.O.H. Terms of Service for HammockForums.net NEHHA Facebook Page Raiffnuke's YouTube Channel
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 Originally Posted by Pipsissewa Those are called Brannock devices. (my head is full of useless information!) My first hammock was a smallish 4.5x9 parachute hammock. That darn thing is STILL the most comfortable hammock I have (out of 5!) I can hang it ANYWHERE, ANY WAY and it's comfortable! So, I think you're on to something there. I don't know if it's the proportion of length to width, or the proportion of length to the height of the user or what, but I agree with your findings, Catavarie. Thanks for the write-up!
Ok, so we need someone to develop the hammock brannock

Dave
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 11-08-2012, 08:30 #8 dragon360     Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Toronto, ON Hammock: WBBB/TR, DIY, HH, SB DL, GT UL Tarp: ID/OES/WB/WL Insulation: HG/WB/Go-Lite/WB Suspension: Whoopie/Straps/DW View my gallery 1 Posts: 6,522 Images: 1 My smallest hammock would be a GT ultra-light I've had for some time. I've always found it comfortable but never been able to really get lost in it. My larger hammocks, I have an easier time evading the dreaded ridge but maybe I need to take some time to relook at this! __________________ The key to immortality is first living a life worth remembering. - St. Augustine Some people feel the rain. Others just get wet. - Bob Marley
 11-08-2012, 08:34 #9 BillyBob58     Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tupelo, MS View my gallery 353 Posts: 8,561 Images: 353 Very, very interesting thread, Catavarie! And seems to be confirming some experiences I have had and posted about, though I don't think I had yet thought " Hmmm, could a smaller hammock be better?". First your thought on Big Red and " it is so wide that I can go completely to one side of it without much maneuvering": how often I have posted the same thought about the HH Safari! When I stay far enough to one side, the ridge hits me mid thigh where it is of no consequence. It can't seem to put pressure on a nerve as happens with some other hammocks causing calf pressure. I think yours is the 1st other post I've read stating a similar opinion, though about another hammock. Another hammock with mostly no calf pressure problems has been my Claytor No Net. It is not all that long at 10 ft, but is also my most narrow hammock at 48". As well as my best hammock with a Pea Pod. I have always meant to try the shorter Claytor model, both for comfort and pod use, but have not yet done so. Finally, my old Speer 8.5 ( probably actually a 9 footer the way most folks measure) is my shortest hammock though wider than the Claytor. And I am always surprised that it consistently equals or exceeds any non-bridge I have tried for lack of leg ridge misery. It is not my favorite hammock overall, because I might have some slight knee hyper-extension ( way easier to deal with than calf pressure )and side sleeping with my legs straight is not so great ( fetal is fine ). But otherwise very comfy, and a match for any in the calf pressure wars. So, what's up with these short or shorter hammocks? __________________ For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us....that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now. Romans 8:18,21-22
 11-08-2012, 09:46 #10 JBRanger Senior Member   Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Cumming GA Hammock: Dutch Bridge Tarp: CW 12' All Season Insulation: DIY Down UQ Suspension: Whoopies! Posts: 165 Very interesting thread! I'm interested as I'm only 5'-9" and would love a shorter hammock but yet still maintain comfort of my 11' DIY. Definitely will be following this one.

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