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    Awesome work Dutch, email on it's way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CountryRoads View Post
    The Dinble Berry. No, The Dutch Dingle Berry. I think that's it. Chubby Sister hammock, inside the Dutch Dingle Berry, under the Chocolate Covered Cherry. It even rhymes.

    And I'm sure there a plenty of people around here who'd make you a tarp.

    Now, really, I'll stop screwing around on this thread!
    Please you show your tarp to the world. I hope it rains on you so you can say how incredibly dry it is inside. So dry it make your lips chapped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    Please you show your tarp to the world. I hope it rains on you so you can say how incredibly dry it is inside. So dry it make your lips chapped.
    Looking at the weather we'll all be able to see how dry it keeps her next weekend at NEHHA! Hopefully more dry than last hang, right country roads?!
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    Got the Camo on the table, Super Light, Super Nice, And SUPER SLIPPERY! Love it! Its like trying to line up live eels in oil!

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    Quote Originally Posted by atrane21 View Post
    Looking at the weather we'll all be able to see how dry it keeps her next weekend at NEHHA! Hopefully more dry than last hang, right country roads?!
    Awe, is it supposed to rain? It wasn't the precipitation that got me, but the fact that I picked a low spot by the creek where the humidity liked to hang out. I did fix the sleeping bag that I caught on fire!
    Quote Originally Posted by Rivendell Refugee View Post
    Got the Camo on the table, Super Light, Super Nice, And SUPER SLIPPERY! Love it! Its like trying to line up live eels in oil!

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    That stuff loves to run away from you, but at least it's a little more substantial than the Argon that's not treated with sil. It was a rude awakening for me when I first tried using sil nylon. You'll get the hang of it though. Good luck.

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    Originally Posted by Mumbles
    Dutch, your emmenence, is multicam on the horizon? Will you make my tarp, I'm truly unskilled.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    I tried, it is patented

    Patented, yes, but available for use with licensing. MultiCam is by far the most desired and purchased camo available today, that's why they can charge a licensing fee for use. The principle advantage of licensed MultiCam is that the pattern is unrepeated for great lengths, making it superior for applications such as tarps and quilts. A tarp made out of a repeated camo pattern is actually worse for camouflage purposes than one made with a solid natural color such as coyote brown, OD, or Ranger Green.

    FWIW, I think you would sell much more MultiCam than you would Woodland, enough to make the licensing fee worthwhile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sargevining View Post
    Patented, yes, but available for use with licensing. MultiCam is by far the most desired and purchased camo available today, that's why they can charge a licensing fee for use. The principle advantage of licensed MultiCam is that the pattern is unrepeated for great lengths, making it superior for applications such as tarps and quilts. A tarp made out of a repeated camo pattern is actually worse for camouflage purposes than one made with a solid natural color such as coyote brown, OD, or Ranger Green.

    FWIW, I think you would sell much more MultiCam than you would Woodland, enough to make the licensing fee worthwhile.
    You are dead on with the Multicam. However, the real issue is that Crye precision, the patent holder for Multicam, will not grant a license to anyone looking to print on relevant fabrics because they have an exclusivity arrangement with Duro Textiles. I'm a BIG camo fan myself, so I literally dream about Multicam silnylon . Aside from patent/licensing hurdles, there are logistical issues with printing complex patterns on nylon, especially as you try to go lower and lower in fabric weight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountryRoads View Post
    12' felled seam complete. It's not the prettiest in the world but it'll hold for sure.
    what size needle did you use? also what kind and weight of thread?

    what is everyone elses plan of action for sewing this stuff? want to use heavy enough thread for the ridgeline to take the tension but also don't want to put any bigger holes in the fabric than necessary, what does everyone think of a size 9 or 10 needle and gutermann mara 70? or is that going to be to heavy for the needle size you think?

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    I used an 80/11. Other people can probably tell you more about needle size. I don't know if that's ideal. And I used gutter an thread. Here's a pic, there's no size on it.



    I don't think heavy thread works well for fabric this thin. I tried heavier stuff on my first tarp and it was a disaster. And as much as it hurt me inside I did pin the fabric on the first row of stitching for the felled seam. There's a great video on here on how to do an easy felled seam. I'll find it later, gotta go to work, or maybe gmcttr will find it before me!

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    I learned the hard way on my first tarp to pin the ridgeline. Sil is so slippery, that one layer doesn't go through the machine at the same speed as the other, since they can slide so easily. When I got to the end of the ridgeline, I had 6" more fabric left over on one layer.
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