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    Quick whoopie sling length question

    I find that my whoopie slings are often too long, would it be reasonable to have someone make a sling that has the bury almost immediately beyond the fixed end? Is there some reason this is not typically done? Thank you for your input!

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    i'll take a stab at this

    you typically have a bury for your fixed end eye, the one i use is a locked brummel, so the adjustment cord end needs to be below that, i tend to use a longer bury than recommended, just to be sure, so my adjustment end can only get to about within 8-10 inches of the fixed eye, but that is where it is exiting the constrictor

    so when they are as short as they can be adjusted mine tend to be in the 16" range, do you need shorter than that?

    not sure it this helps or is what you are specifically asking about tho

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    Yes! that is exactly what I am asking about. The ones I currently have are about 2.5 feet long when at the smallest, and it is very frustrating sometimes. Ultimately I end up pulling the fixed-eye up to match up with the adjustable end to reduce length. That is not convenient at all, though, especially when it slips into the channel in the field...

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    this is a common complaint when attempting to hang shorter spans.

    rather than compromise any levels of safety by reducing bury lengths...
    i've gone to amsteel loops *chainlinks* on the ends of my hammock.
    the whoopies are then attached to those via dutch biner, or more recently, i've built the whoopie directly into the chainlink.

    if i encounter a short span, i bipass the whoopie all together, and hook up to the marlin spike using only the chainlink. essentially i'm able to hang directly from the ends of my hammock, as determined by the overall length of the ridgeline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rip waverly View Post
    this is a common complaint when attempting to hang shorter spans.

    rather than compromise any levels of safety by reducing bury lengths...
    i've gone to amsteel loops *chainlinks* on the ends of my hammock.
    the whoopies are then attached to those via dutch biner, or more recently, i've built the whoopie directly into the chainlink.

    if i encounter a short span, i bipass the whoopie all together, and hook up to the marlin spike using only the chainlink. essentially i'm able to hang directly from the ends of my hammock, as determined by the overall length of the ridgeline.

    YMMV
    I do the same in the event of short distances between trees.

    If you never plan on setting up without a tarp then shortening your suspension is not as crucial because you need the extra length to allow for proper tarp coverage. You could redo the whoopies to have a shorter minimum length. You could probably go as short as about 17 inches. 9 inches for the adjustable bury, 5 inches for the fixed eye bury, 2 inches for the fixed eye and an inch for the adjustable loop. I've made and used whoopies with these lengths and even shorter before. There are risks if you don't follow manufacturers recommended bury lengths but so far I've not had any whoopie failures.
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    You could always wrap the whoopie around the end of the hammock a few times to shorten it. Do several wraps before the lark's head, which will obviously no longer really be a lark's head, but I'm not sure what it would be.

    This way you could have the free end exiting the adjustable bury only an inch from the hammock end. Your shortest length would then be only 9" or 10".

    Of course, I've got a Hennessy, so I am forced to do this anyway, but I can't really see why it wouldn't work on any gathered end.

    Has anyone tried this?
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    Helo4321, it all depends how the sling is made and they vary. Ours have a minimum working length of 14-16" depending on how much is used to attach to the hammock. That is about as small as you can go and still have the required bury for the fixed eye and the necessary length for a good constrictor portion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeBait View Post
    Helo4321, it all depends how the sling is made and they vary. Ours have a minimum working length of 14-16" depending on how much is used to attach to the hammock. That is about as small as you can go and still have the required bury for the fixed eye and the necessary length for a good constrictor portion.
    This is right. I just measured the one's I made. The shortest that I can go is 15". I use a locked brummel loop for the larkshead and a 10" bury for the sling part.
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    Thank you all for the suggestions. I will likely be ordering some short (but not unsafe!) slings, and may look into chain links as well for the extra short distances.

    Although I must say, bindibadgi has me thinking...

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    I use the chain links and Dutch biner with my whoopies. This combination allows a variety of setups.
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