Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: East Tennessee
Hammock: Grand Trunk Skeeter Beater Pro
Tarp: WL Tad Pole
Suspension: Tree Hugger
I need some help with this little project. I'm mulling over getting a new hammock setup. I've been looking strongly at two hammock models of the same brand: Warbonnet Traveler and Blackbird.
Hammock: $60 weighs 12.5oz
Sock: $85 weighs 9.3oz
Net: $65 weighs 7.5oz
Hammock: $160 weighs 18.5oz
Sock: $85 weighs 9.3oz
Total: $245 27.8oz
It breaks down to about 1.5oz lighter for purchasing the Blackbird and $35 more than buying the Traveler. Blackbird is actually cheaper per ounce base on this.
Now, what about the qualitative benefit(s)?
P.S. I'm still legally sane, I think?
Blackbird has a bug net. Traveler does not. How much is that worth to you?
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Chester, SC
Hammock: Darien UL
Tarp: HG Cuben
Insulation: UGQ tq/Leighlo uq
I prefer the built in bug net, and you will appreciate the shelf of the BlackBird.
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Jersey Shore, NJ
Hammock: BIAS Hiker Lite
Tarp: HG Winter Palace
The traveller has the independent bugnet - leave it at home if you don't need it. The WBBB's integrated bugnet comes on every trip whether you need it or not.
Two ways to look at this. I like independent bugnets because I do much of my hiking in non-bug weather. Mosquitoes don't bother you if the low is below 50 degrees. I also prefer bottom entry bugnets, no zipper, because when I have a cramp, or there's a critter around, I want to get out of my hammock quickly. I can never find the zipper when I wake up from a deep sleep.
Now others might say they like the integrated bugnet because it's one less thing to forget and leave at home. The bugnet will also add a few degrees of warmth in winter. Plus you get that really cool storage shelf with the WBBB.
Depends on your priorities, I guess.
Love the WBBB, but in the winter the bugnet is worthless weight. I almost wish someone had a mod for it...
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Denver, CO
Hammock: WBRR, WBBB XLC
Insulation: Variety of Quilts
Traveler benefits: modular system to allow you to bring net only when needed.
BB benefits: integrated bugnet is simpler to deploy, you get the shelf. Most importantly, you get the footbox.
The footbox is the deal breaker for me. I'd go with the BB.
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Northern Virginia
Hammock: WBBB 1.1 DL
Tarp: WB A-sym Diamond
Insulation: Sleeping bag/pad
Suspension: Adjustable webbing
Blackbird has a shelf to store my gear -- the argument begins and ends there for me.
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I prefer my BB. If I don't need the bug net on the BB, I can always flip it over and out of the way.
Or you could get the BB XLC.
It comes down to,
... are you car camping or backpacking (weight being the issue here )
... is it buggy where and when you camp out
... do you like to fiddle with your gear (separate bug net) or want to keep it simple (integrated bug net)
... how much can you spend
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Join Date: May 2010
Location: Livonia, MI
Hammock: Gnome 1.5sl, WBBB 1.1dl
Tarp: WB Mamajamba
Insulation: JRB TQ, HG UQ
Suspension: Dynaglide Whoopies
I live in MI and it seems there are always some bugs except for winter of course. I own both but always seem to turn to a netted hammock for my adventures in the piney woods. I use the netless versions mainly for lounging around camp when car camping. You can't go wrong with a blackbird. And you will never forget your net... Bush