I am suspending selling the speed hooks

**Richard Tipton** · 01-27-2015, 15:54

Originally Posted by sunkmail

I've been playing around with my SHs trying to think of a way to secure the line without causing damage, or at least minimizing it.

If I understand the issue properly, the weak point is created where the free (working?) end is compressed between the the supporting line (attached to tree) and the SH itself.
Please excuse the terminology - I'm not 100% sure what to call parts of a rope during tying.

I haven't had a chance to try this on my hammock, but was hoping for thoughts from the community.

This is a 1/8" SP with 1/8" Amsteel, but the process should be the same for 7/64", I think.

Attachment 101868
Take the working end across the supporting line, while maintaining an open eye.

Attachment 101869
Bring the free working end through that eye.
You can also bring through a bight resulting in a secure slip knot, and doesn't require pulling the whole line through. (Probably the better method, but I didn't think about it until after the pictures.)

Attachment 101870
Attachment 101871
Cinch down.

The supporting line is now underneath the securing knot, with the compression being shared by the SH, over a couple of bends, and the securing knot.

Thoughts??

There's only one way to find out! Give it a go!

**bindibadgi** · 01-27-2015, 17:12

That's pretty much a sheet bend, and it sounds like it should work. I'm going to give it a try!

**MDSH** · 01-27-2015, 17:25

Originally Posted by sunkmail

I've been playing around with my SHs trying to think of a way to secure the line without causing damage, or at least minimizing it.

If I understand the issue properly, the weak point is created where the free (working?) end is compressed between the the supporting line (attached to tree) and the SH itself.
Please excuse the terminology - I'm not 100% sure what to call parts of a rope during tying.

I haven't had a chance to try this on my hammock, but was hoping for thoughts from the community.

This is a 1/8" SP with 1/8" Amsteel, but the process should be the same for 7/64", I think.

Attachment 101868
Take the working end across the supporting line, while maintaining an open eye.

Attachment 101869
Bring the free working end through that eye.
You can also bring through a bight resulting in a secure slip knot, and doesn't require pulling the whole line through. (Probably the better method, but I didn't think about it until after the pictures.)

Attachment 101870
Attachment 101871
Cinch down.

The supporting line is now underneath the securing knot, with the compression being shared by the SH, over a couple of bends, and the securing knot.

Thoughts??

Like it!

Tried the full twist today and it seemed better.

This looks even better.

**MDSH** · 01-27-2015, 17:29

Dutch could, if I may be presumptuous, test each knot and publish the results in his on line offering.

The consumer is thusly informed and assumes his own risk.

**paulw** · 01-27-2015, 17:46

Originally Posted by sunkmail

I've been playing around with my SHs trying to think of a way to secure the line without causing damage, or at least minimizing it.

If I understand the issue properly, the weak point is created where the free (working?) end is compressed between the the supporting line (attached to tree) and the SH itself.
Please excuse the terminology - I'm not 100% sure what to call parts of a rope during tying.

I haven't had a chance to try this on my hammock, but was hoping for thoughts from the community.

This is a 1/8" SP with 1/8" Amsteel, but the process should be the same for 7/64", I think.

Attachment 101868
Take the working end across the supporting line, while maintaining an open eye.

Attachment 101869
Bring the free working end through that eye.
You can also bring through a bight resulting in a secure slip knot, and doesn't require pulling the whole line through. (Probably the better method, but I didn't think about it until after the pictures.)

Attachment 101870
Attachment 101871
Cinch down.

The supporting line is now underneath the securing knot, with the compression being shared by the SH, over a couple of bends, and the securing knot.

Thoughts??

I just give this a try and it it works ,but after putting a load in the hammock,I had a heck of a time getting it free fom the speed hook ,this is very close to a solution ,with enough great minds the impossible can be achieved/

**Dutch** · 01-27-2015, 18:08

Nothing quite like having your customers fix your problems.

**rpater** · 01-27-2015, 18:51

Instead of pulling a single line try pulling a loop (double line) then when it is time to untie just pull the tail and the loop should come free.

**Richard Tipton** · 01-27-2015, 19:15

Originally Posted by Dutch

Nothing quite like having your customers fix your problems.

I can't do any testing until tomorrow, but If I can ever do anything to help, just let me know.

**dkurfiss** · 01-27-2015, 19:21

Originally Posted by Dutch

Nothing quite like having your customers fix your problems.

Hmmm, not a problem but more like a challenge

**wildwillott** · 01-27-2015, 19:32

Originally Posted by paulw

this is a demo of the speed anchor ,but works on the same princeable if you notice the amsteel on his it is a little discolored ,full twist. also, note this is 7/64 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKOPtD9ZrtI h.t.h.

Thank you Paul for posting this I was having a brain fart and didn't understand.